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When I say I want to read the book before seeing the movie, I don’t want brownie points or bragging rights. I want to be able to read the book with my imagined world and idea of the characters without the movie’s influence at least once. After you see the movie there’s always some part of it that sticks in your head for a long time and you lose the enjoyment of making it up yourself.
thank you so much for putting it into words
Not only that, but I always want to read/watch/whatever the original version of something before I see any subsequent adaptations. Not just with books, either. I still haven’t seen the reboot Star Trek movies because I feel like in order to judge it properly I’d need to see what it’s based on - The Original Series - first.
Personal Nightmare Fanfic by Luanna255.
Scene: Office. Jim-in-Charge, a higher-up at a major film studio, sits in conference with his assistant, Intern Bob.
Jim-in-Charge: Right, so we’ve decided to make a movie about this Nightwing character, after Nolan wouldn’t sell us the rights to John Blake. Supposedly there’s a large fanbase out there interested in seeing this. Bob, have you got this guy’s Wikipedia page for me?
Intern Bob: Sir, don’t you think we should be consulting the actual comics-
Jim-in-Charge: No, not necessary. Do I look like I have time to read picture books? Wikipedia will do fine.
Intern Bob: Yes, sir. *pulls up Wikipedia page* Okay, Dick Grayson was the youngest in a family of-
Jim-in-Charge: Wait. Wait. Dick?
Intern Bob: Yes…
Jim-in-Charge: Well, we can’t have that. We want this movie to be serious. Nothing ridiculous. Nothing laughable. We’re gonna have to call him something else.
Intern Bob: His full name is Richard…
Jim-in-Charge: Too old-fashioned. It’s gotta be something cool. Hip. Something kids will relate to. Like… Chad!
Intern Bob: … Chad? Really?
Jim-in-Charge: Sure! Like that blonde kid from One Tree Hill that all the young people are so crazy for!
Intern Bob: Are you talking about Chad Michael Murray? Because he hasn’t even been relevant in, like, six years…
Jim-in-Charge: It’ll be great, trust me. Okay, now: Backstory.
Intern Bob: *consults Wikipedia page* He was the youngest in a family of acrobats known as “The Flying Graysons”, and his parents were killed by a mob boss when he was-
Jim-in-Charge: The dead parents are good, but we’re gonna have to scratch the rest of that. Circuses are goofy. He needs an origin story that’s grittier, darker… like… growing up on the streets, or something.
Intern Bob: Then why don’t you just make a movie about Jason Todd?
Intern Bob: The second Robin.
Jim-in-Charge: There’s been more than one of those kids?
Intern Bob: Five, actually-
Jim-in-Charge: Don’t tell me you actually read those funny books?
Intern Bob: I’ve been known to pick one up now and then.
Jim-in-Charge: Well, we’re not making a movie about this Todd Janson person. Nobody’s ever heard of him. We’re making a movie about Nightwing. And it’s gonna be realistic. And gritty. So, what happened in the comics after his parents died?
Intern Bob: He was taken in as Bruce Wayne’s legal ward, and became his crime-fighting partner, Robin-
Jim-in-Charge: No good. People think Robin, they think of some stupid kid making puns. We’ve gotta stay as far away from that as possible. So, none of this Robin stuff. He grows up on the streets, and then he becomes… a gang member.
Intern Bob: … A gang member? Really?
Jim-in-Charge: Yeah! And he’s angry about this. Like, really angry. This is a guy who walks around with a chip on his shoulder at all times. An angry loner. The world’s been cruel to him, and he’s mad about it.
Intern Bob: This isn’t sounding like Dick Grayson at all-
Intern Bob: Chad. Right. Sorry. But see, in the comics he’s a very upbeat, friendly kind of person-
Jim-in-Charge: Kid, nobody’s interested in seeing that campy, colorful stuff nowadays. People like their heroes dark. Flawed. Superheroes for adults.
Intern Bob: Can’t he be flawed and realistic, but still an optimist-?
Jim-in-Charge: No. Optimism isn’t realistic.
Intern Bob: Oh. Well. Okay then.
Jim-in-Charge: Good, we’re on the same page. Now! This franchise needs a love interest! Nightwing’s supposed to be some kind of big womanizer, right?
Intern Bob: Actually, he’s not really-
Jim-in-Charge: Less talking, more possible love interests, please.
Intern Bob: *turns back to Wikipedia* He was in a relationship with fellow Teen Titans member Starfire for years-
Jim-in-Charge: Who? Never heard of her.
Intern Bob: Princess Koriand’r. She’s an alien from the planet Tamaran, and she was-
Jim-in-Charge: No, no, NO. You’re not listening. We need gritty. Realistic. Dark. Not some alien princess named after a kitchen spice.
Intern Bob: His other main love interest is Barbara Gordon…
Jim-in-Charge: Wasn’t she Batgirl, or something?
Intern Bob: Oracle, technically, by the time they got together. She was left wheelchair-bound after the Joker shot her in the spine, and established herself as-
Jim-in-Charge: We can’t have a crippled love interest. It’s not sexy. The audience won’t like it.
Intern Bob: But-
Jim-in-Charge: Keep going.
Intern Bob: *turns back to Wikipedia* Well, it lists Donna Troy here, but they’re actually just-
Jim-in-Charge: Who’s she?
Intern Bob: Wonder Woman’s little sister.
Jim-in-Charge: No good. They’re not letting us use any Wonders until the Justice League movie comes out. You got anyone else listed there?
Intern Bob: *hesitantly* Well, it has Catalina Flores listed…
Intern Bob: She’s a former FBI agent, who was responsible for the murder of-
Jim-in-Charge: Perfect. It’s dark. Realistic. Gritty. She’ll fit right into the world we’re making!
Intern Bob: Sir, I think that’s a very bad idea-
Jim-in-Charge: No, it’ll be perfect. Trust me. I think we’re making great progress here!
Intern Bob: So, you’re making a movie about Chad Grayson, angry loner street kid who grows into a gang member, and his love interest, Tarantula?
Jim-in-Charge: The fans are gonna love it!
I don’t want Christopher Nolan to make a Nightwing or Robin sequel to TDK trilogy. If or when there ever is a Nightwing/Robin movie, I would much rather it be about Dick Grayson and not John Blake.
I loved Joseph Gordon-Levitt in the movie.
I loved his character, John Blake.
But seriously, if there is to be a Nightwing/Robin movie… I want it to be canon. I want it to be about Dick Grayson, with his acrobatics, chattiness, comedy and all that good stuff.
And let’s just be realistic for a second and accept the fact that Nolan would never make one anyways.
I guess I wasn’t actually done with TDKR posts.
AGREED. John Blake =/= Dick Grayson. And I don’t want to see a Nightwing movie about anyone who isn’t Dick Grayson. Period, the end.
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