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Posts tagged batgirl

Jul 25 '14
toalwaysbeme replied to your post:
Okay but what if there were a Team Batgirl book with Oracle calling the shots and Black Bat and Batgirl out in the field (or Nightwing!Steph and Batgirl!Nell yesplease)… that started out as a question but now I just really want that

I’ve spoken about wanting a book like that in the past, actually! Even had conversations with other fans about who should be the theoretical writer/artist for the book. A lot of people tend to go with either Bryan Q. Miller or Gail Simone for writing, but my personal belief tends to be that Cass is a lot harder to get right as a character than Babs or Steph, so I’d rather have a writer who’s proven they can write her well, which neither Miller nor Simone has (and in fact, Miller’s treatment of Cass was pretty dang problematic, though I’m willing to believe there was editorial interference involved.)

My personal choice would be Dylan Horrocks, who had a quite good run on Cass’s Batgirl series and wrote some absolutely fantastic scenes between the three:

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The choice of artist is less tricky as I can think of a bunch who’d do a great job… but as we were discussing the other day, Marcus To needs a project worthy of his talents, and he’s definitely shown he can draw all three of them fantastically:

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So that would be my dream team for the book. :-) Dylan Horrocks as the writer, Marcus To on art.

Jul 23 '14

starfleetbabe:

i’m undestanding this thing a little better

made with emofuri

Jul 23 '14

mcgone:

Happy Batman Day! How about a shout out to the Ladies of Gotham?

Batwoman / Huntress / The Adaptable Selina Kyle / The Million Dollar Debut of Batgirl by *mcguan

 

Jul 22 '14
kateordie:

mikemaihack:

No one is more excited about Batgirl’s new costume than Kara.
Original available hereMore BGSG comics

EEEEEEEE!

kateordie:

mikemaihack:

No one is more excited about Batgirl’s new costume than Kara.

Original available here
More BGSG comics

EEEEEEEE!

Jul 20 '14

hauntedlittledoll:

thelittlestbat:

From new Batgirl creative team, Cameron Stewart, Brenden Fletcher and Babs Tarr!

Preface:  I like this design.  I like it a lot.

Core Message:  What the heck is it doing on Barbara Gordon?

No, I’m serious here.  This is a fun outfit that was pieced together by a young woman without access to Bruce Wayne’s pocketbook.  I’ve grasped this, and I applaud that decision.  I’d like to point out that those padded motorcycle jackets do have a certain amount of weight that is not shown by this artist, but I really like the boots and a detachable cape makes a certain amount of sense.

It’s just … well, this looks like an outfit that Stephanie Brown or Carrie Kelley would have put together early in their costumed careers.  Even Harper Rowe is wearing more visibly protective gear than this, and that young lady has even less funding/training than Babs (not to mention the new take on Steph’s Spoiler in Batman Eternal).

No, I’ve got it—this outfit feels like Misfit.  This would be an awesome outfit to introduce Charlie Radcliffe-Gage as the determined mentoree that Barbara never asked for.

*shrugs*

I suppose—in consideration of the five-year timeline of the reboot—Barbara probably started out in her late teens.  If the Batgirl book was going to go back in time to fill in that era, this could very well have been Babs’ first Batgirl costume—the one she made herself before nearly dying.  I’d probably read that.

(Future Oracle Post - My childhood memories of Batgirl!Babs were always coloured by my love of Dick Grayson and deep respect of Batman.  I didn’t warm up to Barbara until long after she became Oracle—a new take on those years would be fantastic.)

But as for who Babs is now?

I just think that this outfit looks young in a way that I don’t feel Barbara Gordon is—no matter how DC deages her (they’ve been inching backwards for decades).  This character survived an adolescence with a brother that she (rightfully) suspected of being a serial killer.  She’s the daughter/stepdaughter of high-profile law-enforcement.  Even if this kind of upbringing did not naturally result in a wise-beyond-her-years maturity, she survived the Joker’s personal attention and recovered from severe injury (honest, my thoughts and clear preference for Oracle will be another post entirely … someday).  She’s lost Dick Grayson and watched children die.

Given the trauma of the last year or so in comic book time, Barbara Gordon’s response could very well be to take a break from vigilante work … (I personally think that it would drive her to the isolation and distance of Oracle—the all-seeing commander of armies, but I’m biased) … however, the bright, fun, flirty, social take that the new creative team is selling?

I’m not buying it.  Figuratively.  Literally.  Both.  Nope.

That’s not Barbara Gordon.

Barbara can be bright.  She can be fun and she can have fun.  I think that she even likes to flirt outrageously although she’s selective on who she makes the effort to charm.  But I don’t see her being a social butterfly, fashion-friendly, or a casual detective or anything but an extremely distracted classmate that everyone respects, most like, but no one really knows … because Babs has a drive and a mission and our girl doesn’t have time for this.

(Source: bleedingcool.com)

Jul 20 '14
sablelighter:

Robin-Dick trying to flirt with Batgirl-Barbara is too adorable.

sablelighter:

Robin-Dick trying to flirt with Batgirl-Barbara is too adorable.

Jul 15 '14

I Love Batgirl’s New Concept: But It’s Three Years Too Late

subculturedpage:

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I love Barabara Gordon’s new look and creative team. I also really hate it.

If you’ve followed my writing before you’ve probably become well aware I am very passionate about Batgirls. Why? I don’t even know exactly why, but the mantle of Batgirl and its many wearers strike me a certain way.  They mean something to me. So whenever something comes up regarding them, I tend to pay attention.

The…

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Jul 15 '14

oxers:

*hugs you* You wanna talk, bb?

I am just angry about Batgirl

the usual

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It sucks, it truly does.

See, I honestly believe that this new team has nothing but the best of intentions. I truly, 100% do believe them. And I don’t blame them for the fact that DC used the reboot to de-age Babs and erase her disability and take the Batgirl mantle away from Steph and get rid of Cass.

But while they weren’t responsible for the original de-aging, there’s no denying that this revamp makes Babs seem even younger yet. I know, they say she’s 21. But on that cover for Batgirl #35? The cover they’ve chosen to represent what their new series is going to be all about? She looks about 14. I’ve been small and young-looking all my life, trust me. I know what a young-looking 21 looks like, and that is not a young-looking 21. That girl could be sixteen at the oldest. She looks barely pubescent.

And while the new costume is undeniably cute, I can’t help but feel it adds to the overall youthfulness. The high-top sneakers? The more casual vibe with the jacket and leggings? It’s a cool-looking redesign, no doubt about it, but it also makes her look more like a kid.

And there’s no reason a character can’t be youthful and empowered, but the fact that they chose to do it to THIS character, who had already been de-aged, who had already had so much of her maturity and authority taken away from her - THAT is problematic. And I do blame them for that.

I’m sure they didn’t realize the implications. I’m sure they intend to do nothing but write Babs as an awesome character with plenty of competence and agency, and I’m actually fairly sure that the series will, on its own merits, be perfectly fun and well-written.

But the series doesn’t exist in a vacuum, this revamp doesn’t exist in a vacuum, it exists in the larger context of Barbara’s character and her 47-year history. It exists in the larger context of the way Babs’ character growth has been undone and continues to be undone. 

DC took a lot of growth away from Babs when they made her Batgirl again. They also took away one of their only disabled superheroes (one of the only prominent disabled superheroes in comics). That was a mistake. I will always consider it a mistake. But at least they could give her character a chance to grow and regain some maturity. Instead, this revamp feels like her character is aging backwards.

And good intentions aside, that bothers me.

Jul 15 '14
inthenameofcassandracain:

Cassandra Cain Redesignfest
“You can change. You can.”
Barbara Gordon. Selina Kyle. Kate Kane. Bette Kane. Leslie Thompkins. Helena Wayne. Harper Row. Strix. Carrie Kelley. Stephanie Brown. Julia Pennyworth. Onyx. Helena Bertinelli. The New 52 has seen both the debut and the return of nearly every woman to ever be a part of the Batman legacy.
Excepting, of course, Cassandra Cain. And between the new Barbara Gordon Batgirl redesign that’s been doing the rounds and Stephanie Brown’s stylish new Spoiler duds, well. Cassandra’s had some pretty great costumes over the years. But it’s about time a certain former Batgirl got her own snazzy new redesign, isn’t it?
So here’s the deal. Batgirl. Black Bat. A new identity entirely. Steampunk, futuristic, noir, medieval, alternate universe, New 52, whatever you want - the only rules? It must be Cassandra Cain. And it must be a redesign.
All entries will be reblogged to inthenameofcassandracain. Entries may be submitted, or posted under the #casscainredesigns tag. Existing redesigns are absolutely welcome and encouraged.
So what are you waiting for? Let’s show Cass some love!

[Image Sources, left to right:
1. Batgirl Secret Files and Origins - art by Damion Scott, cropped version found here.
2. Batgirl Steampunk Redesign by denimcatfish
3. Red Robin #17 - art by Marcus To, image found here.
4. Black Bat redesign by dimethyloctopus
5. Red Robin #25 cover - art by Marcus To, image found here
6. Black Bat redesign by branch56
7. Batgirl #49 (2004)  - art by Rick Leonardi, cropped by me.
All fanart used with permission.]

inthenameofcassandracain:

Cassandra Cain Redesignfest

You can change. You can.

Barbara Gordon. Selina Kyle. Kate Kane. Bette Kane. Leslie Thompkins. Helena Wayne. Harper Row. Strix. Carrie Kelley. Stephanie Brown. Julia Pennyworth. Onyx. Helena Bertinelli. The New 52 has seen both the debut and the return of nearly every woman to ever be a part of the Batman legacy.

Excepting, of course, Cassandra Cain. And between the new Barbara Gordon Batgirl redesign that’s been doing the rounds and Stephanie Brown’s stylish new Spoiler duds, well. Cassandra’s had some pretty great costumes over the years. But it’s about time a certain former Batgirl got her own snazzy new redesign, isn’t it?

So here’s the deal. Batgirl. Black Bat. A new identity entirely. Steampunk, futuristic, noir, medieval, alternate universe, New 52, whatever you want - the only rules? It must be Cassandra Cain. And it must be a redesign.

All entries will be reblogged to inthenameofcassandracain. Entries may be submitted, or posted under the #casscainredesigns tag. Existing redesigns are absolutely welcome and encouraged.

So what are you waiting for? Let’s show Cass some love!

[Image Sources, left to right:

1. Batgirl Secret Files and Origins - art by Damion Scott, cropped version found here.

2. Batgirl Steampunk Redesign by denimcatfish

3. Red Robin #17 - art by Marcus To, image found here.

4. Black Bat redesign by dimethyloctopus

5. Red Robin #25 cover - art by Marcus To, image found here

6. Black Bat redesign by branch56

7. Batgirl #49 (2004)  - art by Rick Leonardi, cropped by me.

All fanart used with permission.]

Jul 14 '14

katthekonqueror:

luanna255:

The evolution of Barbara Gordon’s Batgirl costume.

I’m a little disappointed that this doesn’t include her costume from the show:

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^ I stuck to the comics only because if I’d started adding shows, it would’ve added like another seven costumes (at least) to the photoset, when you add in all the cartoons Batgirl’s appeared in (she had at least two different costumes in Batman:TAS, then there was The Brave and the Bold, Young Justice, The Batman, etc.)

I also stuck to the mainverse comics only, so Batman ‘66 isn’t in there, nor any of the other AU Batgirl looks.

If I’d added in all of those, it would’ve far exceeded the ten-picture limit that Tumblr photosets have.

Jul 14 '14

The evolution of Barbara Gordon’s Batgirl costume.

Jul 14 '14

Okay, see now what I don’t get is people who say they love Babs’ redesign because “finally a practical female costume in comics!!”

Because it’s absolutely true that impractical costumes are a problem that plague superheroines, but this is what Babs’ New 52 costume looked like before they redesigned it:

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I’m purposefully using a picture that has her next to Batman - her costume was just as “practical” as his. Full body suit, sturdy-looking flat-heeled boots, no unnecessary details beyond the Bat symbol and cape (both of which Batman has too) - what exactly was so “impractical” about this?

For that matter, this is what Babs’ original Batgirl costume looked like:

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That’s from the 1970’s, and her costume looks as practical as can be. Actually, I’d argue that Dick’s the one with the impractical costume, here.

So why are we acting like this is such a big deal that Babs “finally” has a practical costume?! She’s had one since practically the very beginning (once they stopped drawing her original costume with high heels, anyway).

Superheroine costumes are certainly lacking practicality on the whole, but Babs was never really an issue there. So giving her a practical redesign doesn’t really do anything to change the status quo - it just “fixes” what wasn’t broken to start with. Why not give Starfire a redesign where I don’t have to wonder how her top stays on, instead? 

Jul 10 '14

alleybat:

fyeahdickandbabs:

So what does everyone think of Batgirl’s redesign and new creative team? Main article is here if you’re yet to hear about it.

It really doesn’t feel like she’s Babs anymore to me. She looks like she’s fourteen, like she belongs in the Titans.

THANK YOU OH MY GOSH I FELT LIKE I WAS THE ONLY ONE.

I mean, everyone else seemed to love it, and don’t get me wrong… the art looks incredibly cute and the redesign is cool (though if you ask me, Babs’ original Batgirl costume didn’t really need improvement), and I’m glad they’re going in a more fun direction because goodness knows the New 52 needs it.

But I’m just… baffled by the direction Babs is going in as a character. She keeps getting younger and younger, and it just seems sad to me when you think that this was a mature woman who was mentoring younger heroes and leading her own team before the reboot. Even if she’s going to be Batgirl again, she could at least have been a more mature Batgirl. When Babs first premiered as Batgirl in 1967, she was an adult woman with a PhD. Why does she have to keep getting de-aged with every reboot?

How does this fit in with her history, anyway? She used to be older than Dick and now it seems she’s significantly younger. How long is she going to have been Batgirl in this new series? Did she start out when she was 12?! 

And it bugs me maybe most of all because if DC wanted a more fun, lighthearted Batgirl series with a younger Batgirl, they had that. With Bryan Q. Miller’s Steph run, right before the reboot. They had a young, lighthearted Batgirl that they could have had a ton of fun with, and they got rid of her in favor of pushing Babs into a role that the Babs I loved had long outgrown.

If this was an AU Batgirl series, I would probably enjoy it for what it was. But as it is, this just makes no sense for Babs’ character.

Jul 10 '14

One of the few things I think DC has done right lately are all the lines of variant covers they’ve been doing, which have been lots of fun IMO. These are a few of my absolute favorites, mostly from the Steampunk and Bombshell covers (although one is from the upcoming horror-themed variants).

Can’t you just imagine some of these making gorgeous posters to hang on your wall?

Variants to: Wonder Woman #32 (by Ant Lucia), Batgirl #28 (by J.G. Jones), Justice League Dark #28 (by Tommy Lee Edwards), Batwoman #32 (by Ant Lucia), Batman and Ra’s al Ghul/Batman and Robin #32 (by J.G. Jones and Alex Sinclair), Wonder Woman #35 (by Aaron Lopresti), Batman/Superman #8 (by Tommy Lee Edwards), Superman #32 (by Ant Lucia), Superman/Wonder Woman #9 (by Ant Lucia, Emanuela Lupacchino, and Fabio Montovani) and Batwoman #28 (by Dave Johnson)

Jul 10 '14
cameron-stewart:

BATGIRL #35 cover, 2014.  I am taking over Batgirl starting in October! I’m co-writing with my friend Brenden Fletcher, doing covers and layouts for the amazing Babs Tarr, who will do finished art, and colours by the equally amazing Jordie Bellaire.  New tone, new aesthetic, new costume, new everything. Really excited. 

Love the look, and of course Mr. Stewart’s gorgeous art, but why does Babs seem to be getting younger and younger?

cameron-stewart:

BATGIRL #35 cover, 2014.  I am taking over Batgirl starting in October! I’m co-writing with my friend Brenden Fletcher, doing covers and layouts for the amazing Babs Tarr, who will do finished art, and colours by the equally amazing Jordie Bellaire.  New tone, new aesthetic, new costume, new everything. Really excited. 

Love the look, and of course Mr. Stewart’s gorgeous art, but why does Babs seem to be getting younger and younger?