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It's Only the End if You Want it to Be

Posts tagged batkids

Jul 10 '14
pancakesprince:

anon request on my rp blog, damien and dick.
hfff my cute poc robins

pancakesprince:

anon request on my rp blog, damien and dick.

hfff my cute poc robins

Jul 5 '14

luanna255:

Stepmomma-Selina! :-)

(Okay, her dynamic with Babs is not actually motherly at all, and in fact if I were into that kind of thing I’d probably say they were highly slashable, but whatever, Babs is still a Batkid so she still gets included.)

I love, love, love seeing Selina interact with the non-Bruce members of the Batfamily, because some of those dynamics are just so unexpected and so awesome. I don’t even know which of these scenes is my favorite: her being adorable with Steph, or Jason telling her she’s “got herself a date”, or her calling Dick out on the way he thinks exactly (seriously, she is so spot-on), or the fact that she takes one look at Damian in all his bratty glory and her only comment is “Cute kid”.

Seriously. "Cute kid."

Akgkdfvktyh Selina, you need to marry Bruce RIGHT NOW and raise these kids because you are perfect and I need you to interact with them ALL THE TIME.

And then there’s her kissing Tim on the cheek, and his facial expression, which is utterly hilarious and perfect and basically I love every one of these scenes, okay.

Updated with a better Cass/Selina scene, because I didn’t like the one I had before. Thanks to renaroo for uploading the scan! 

Mar 6 '14
renaroo replied to your post:
He’s pretty consistent with Cass - but forces her to compare to *him* instead of the other kids. And sometimes Babs - which is where Cass feels the most insecure, trying to live up to Barbara. It’s like you said, I just wish he didn’t do it at all :(

Oh, that’s absolutely true, and a whole different kettle of fish - Bruce loves to compare the Batkids to himself, which is natural, but it can lead to each of them trying to remold themselves in his image.

There’s literally a scene (and I tried, but I can’t find it right now) where Dick literally says that he tried to become what he thought Bruce wanted - a younger version of himself.

I could write an entirely separate post about the Batkids trying to live up to Bruce’s image and feeling like they come up short.

With Cass feeling like she doesn’t measure up to Babs, I think a lot of that is tied into Cass’s insecurities about her own intelligence. With the physical fighting, I don’t feel like Cass has many insecurities - she knows she’s good. She knows she’s better than Barbara, better than almost any other fighter out there, pretty much. But the detective side is more of a struggle for her, because she was never taught that, and the fact that she has troubles with reading and language is something she’s very self-conscious about, I think. (At least at first - these insecurities are things she gets over as time goes on.)

Now, none of this is because Cass isn’t intelligent - she’s actually incredibly intelligent, and incredibly perceptive. She often notices details that other people overlook. But, I do think she has some insecurities in that area, and considering that Barbara’s greatest strength is her mind, I wonder if that doesn’t feed into Cass’s insecurities somewhat.

Dec 5 '13
gabzilla-z:

for kitty

gabzilla-z:

for kitty

May 17 '13

molliehaswords:

yellowcape:

- The New Titans 60

The Titans are looking for Dick. Several things to note about this:

  • They’re really putting in an effort to find him!
  • Dick’s a slob. People who are very tidy in their heads tend to not be so tidy with the things around them. Super-smart detective equals slobby cleaning tendencies.
  • I have too high thoughts about Tim and don’t want him to have taken something from Dick’s safe, but he is the only one who can have done it.
  • Roy! Nice seeing you again. :)

Interesting about the slob thing. I’m smart, but my brain is like a pinball machine, so I try to keep my living space tidy so that SOMETHING is organized. :)

I don’t actually think there’s one way that all smart people are, but in Dick’s case, his messy habits are well-established canon, going back to the days when he was living in the Manor and Bruce would complain about it:

(Scan from Batman #217, 1969, which was the issue where Dick left for college. I always think this scene is precious, because it’s just so utterly parental that even when Bruce is getting all emotional about Dick leaving, he’s still commenting on how messy his room is, haha.)

Tim is also canonically a slob, BTW, despite the fact that I sometimes see fans headcanoning him as some kind of neat-freak:

(Scans from Robin #43 and #45 via fragileicicle, who is my go-to source on all things Tim Drake.)

Are any of the Batkids actually neat? It would be funny if it actually turned out to be, like, Jason who was the neat one or something.

Mar 24 '13

#I was going to say Jason #that hurts now #DC why do you make even the good things hurt?

Oh man, I didn’t even think of that. That is pretty ironic, in retrospect.

On the upside, this art is still adorable. I love how Dick is messing with Tim’s hair. <3

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Mar 13 '13

The Purpose of Damian Wayne

commonsensestopshere:

beeftony:

I’ve been trying to stay out of the Damian drama but fuck it, there’s a few things about it that really grind my gears and I’m going to talk about them.

This was originally meant as a reply to a quote by Bob Harras but it got long enough that I decided to make it its own rant.

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This is a truly excellent post. Not just about Damian, but in the analysis of Bruce, the rest of the Batfamily, and the meaning of the Batman mythos in general. 100% agreed with everything.

Feb 7 '13

queen0fcups:

Dick Grayson was Robin for 44 years. Holy shit. I’m so glad for his sake that comic book time works differently.

Ever since I saw this awesome drawing, I’ve wanted to see the same idea drawn with the Batkids (i.e. each one’s age portrayed as the number of years their character has actually been around).

Dick would be (almost) 73

Babs would be 46

Jason would be nearly 30 (26 if you count from his Post-Crisis incarnation)

Tim would be 23

Steph would be 20

Cass would be 13

And Damian would be just 6 (but 26 if you count from Son of the Demon)

It would also be interesting to draw them all as the proper ages of their characters, but dressed in the clothes of the respective eras when they were created (i.e., Dick in the clothes of the early 40’s, Babs in the fashions of the late 60’s, etc.)

(Of course, I can’t draw well enough to do any of these things, so it’s a moot point. But fun to think about, anyway.)

I think their characters are still very much informed by the eras when they were created, even though, for example, modern!Dick obviously did not live through the 40’s, and so on. It’s hard for me to take their history out of the era when it was actually written sometimes, in fact. For example, I think I’ll always see the events of New Teen Titans as taking place during the mid-eighties, even though going by the age the characters were immediately pre-reboot, that’s around the time they would have been born.

And I’ll pretty much always see Tim Drake as a 90’s kid, even though that increasingly makes less sense as time goes on (he was 17 in 2011, which would make him born in 1994).

Comic book time is funny, for sure.

Jan 28 '13
portabellogna:

…I….I don’t even know where to start with this.  
Except that I’m picturing Nightwing outside the window like this—

(full original comic by fwips here)

UM.
WHAT?
There is so much WTF going on here, I barely know where to start.
Okay, let&#8217;s start with this: &#8220;Jason and I haven&#8217;t talked a lot since he came back from the dead&#8221;.
Well, you certainly didn&#8217;t talk BEFORE he came back from the dead, because you guys didn&#8217;t know each other yet. That used to be Tim&#8217;s whole backstory? He tracked Dick and Bruce down after Jason&#8217;s death, because Bruce was falling apart and Batman needs a Robin? Remember that?
I mean, yeah, I know the reboot changed some of that backstory around, but I&#8217;m pretty sure the part about it being after Jason&#8217;s death is still intact. Wasn&#8217;t the whole excuse for Tim not being a Robin that he said it would be &#8220;disrespectful to Jason&#8217;s memory&#8221;? If Jason was still alive at that time, how does that even make SENSE?!
And, OK. Wow. Jason is the closest thing to a brother Tim&#8217;s ever had. Just&#8230; wow. Wowowow.
Between this and Jason now being Roy&#8217;s &#8220;only friend&#8221;, Dick should seriously just call the cops on the fact that Jason is pulling a Single White Female on his entire freaking life. I can&#8217;t even.
Y&#8217;know, I&#8217;m not opposed to Tim and Jay forming a closer relationship. I&#8217;m in favor of it, even, if it&#8217;s handled properly. Tim obviously looked up to Jason&#8217;s memory before he came back from the dead. And they had some nice moments prior to the reboot.
But they also had&#8230; a LOT of not-so-nice moments. A lot of downright terrible moments, in fact.
I&#8217;m talking about this kind of thing:

Jason resents Tim. A lot. He feels like the fact that Bruce just took on a new Robin after his death means that he was replaceable. That his death meant nothing to Bruce. And he resents Tim for being held up as the &#8216;perfect&#8217; Robin that he couldn&#8217;t be. For having all the privileges that Jason never got.
They have a lot of bad history between them, OK? And that&#8217;s not just going to go away. I do believe they could have a better relationship someday, but they&#8217;d have to LEARN to trust each other. Jason&#8217;s done a LOT to make Tim distrust him, and Tim is wary by nature. They&#8217;re not just going to bounce back from that.
And the thing is, unlike Bruce, Dick, and Babs, Tim DIDN&#8217;T have a relationship with Jason prior to his death. Their relationship was adversarial from the start, and that would make it that much harder for them to bury the hatchet. Because they don&#8217;t have that good foundation to build on.
Does that mean it would be impossible? No. But it would be hard.
Unless, of course, all of these obstacles are magically wiped off the slate (right down to the class difference, which is seriously SO essential to understanding them as characters. Granted, Tim isn&#8217;t a street kid now, but he no longer comes from that privileged upperclass background that put him so at odds with Jason, who had to survive on his own from childhood).
This isn&#8217;t just revisionist history, it&#8217;s lazy storytelling. It&#8217;s magically wiping the slate clean instead of allowing for genuine growth, which would have been more compelling and, ultimately, more rewarding.
And I&#8217;m not even going to start on what this implies about Dick and Tim&#8217;s relationship and the numerous ways that infuriates me, or we&#8217;d be here all day.

portabellogna:

…I….I don’t even know where to start with this.  

Except that I’m picturing Nightwing outside the window like this—

image

(full original comic by fwips here)

UM.

WHAT?

There is so much WTF going on here, I barely know where to start.

Okay, let’s start with this: “Jason and I haven’t talked a lot since he came back from the dead”.

Well, you certainly didn’t talk BEFORE he came back from the dead, because you guys didn’t know each other yet. That used to be Tim’s whole backstory? He tracked Dick and Bruce down after Jason’s death, because Bruce was falling apart and Batman needs a Robin? Remember that?

I mean, yeah, I know the reboot changed some of that backstory around, but I’m pretty sure the part about it being after Jason’s death is still intact. Wasn’t the whole excuse for Tim not being a Robin that he said it would be “disrespectful to Jason’s memory”? If Jason was still alive at that time, how does that even make SENSE?!

And, OK. Wow. Jason is the closest thing to a brother Tim’s ever had. Just… wow. Wowowow.

Between this and Jason now being Roy’s “only friend”, Dick should seriously just call the cops on the fact that Jason is pulling a Single White Female on his entire freaking life. I can’t even.

Y’know, I’m not opposed to Tim and Jay forming a closer relationship. I’m in favor of it, even, if it’s handled properly. Tim obviously looked up to Jason’s memory before he came back from the dead. And they had some nice moments prior to the reboot.

But they also had… a LOT of not-so-nice moments. A lot of downright terrible moments, in fact.

I’m talking about this kind of thing:

image

Jason resents Tim. A lot. He feels like the fact that Bruce just took on a new Robin after his death means that he was replaceable. That his death meant nothing to Bruce. And he resents Tim for being held up as the ‘perfect’ Robin that he couldn’t be. For having all the privileges that Jason never got.

They have a lot of bad history between them, OK? And that’s not just going to go away. I do believe they could have a better relationship someday, but they’d have to LEARN to trust each other. Jason’s done a LOT to make Tim distrust him, and Tim is wary by nature. They’re not just going to bounce back from that.

And the thing is, unlike Bruce, Dick, and Babs, Tim DIDN’T have a relationship with Jason prior to his death. Their relationship was adversarial from the start, and that would make it that much harder for them to bury the hatchet. Because they don’t have that good foundation to build on.

Does that mean it would be impossible? No. But it would be hard.

Unless, of course, all of these obstacles are magically wiped off the slate (right down to the class difference, which is seriously SO essential to understanding them as characters. Granted, Tim isn’t a street kid now, but he no longer comes from that privileged upperclass background that put him so at odds with Jason, who had to survive on his own from childhood).

This isn’t just revisionist history, it’s lazy storytelling. It’s magically wiping the slate clean instead of allowing for genuine growth, which would have been more compelling and, ultimately, more rewarding.

And I’m not even going to start on what this implies about Dick and Tim’s relationship and the numerous ways that infuriates me, or we’d be here all day.

Jan 8 '13

Stepmomma-Selina! :-)

(Okay, her dynamic with Babs is not actually motherly at all, and in fact if I were into that kind of thing I’d probably say they were highly slashable, but whatever, Babs is still a Batkid so she still gets included.)

I love, love, love seeing Selina interact with the non-Bruce members of the Batfamily, because some of those dynamics are just so unexpected and so awesome. I don’t even know which of these scenes is my favorite: her being adorable with Steph, or Jason telling her she’s “got herself a date”, or her calling Dick out on the way he thinks exactly (seriously, she is so spot-on), or the fact that she takes one look at Damian in all his bratty glory and her only comment is “Cute kid”.

Seriously. "Cute kid."

Akgkdfvktyh Selina, you need to marry Bruce RIGHT NOW and raise these kids because you are perfect and I need you to interact with them ALL THE TIME.

And then there’s her kissing Tim on the cheek, and his facial expression, which is utterly hilarious and perfect and basically I love every one of these scenes, okay.

Dec 16 '12
superhoneybear-art:

In celebration of thanksgiving break I drew some of my favorite batladies (:

This is so utterly adorable!

superhoneybear-art:

In celebration of thanksgiving break I drew some of my favorite batladies (:

This is so utterly adorable!

Dec 9 '12

Anonymous asked: “Tell me Cass that you are just in Hong Kong on some super secret mission and that’s why you aren’t in the new 52 YET.”

batfamilyreactions:

Cass: “Maybe I’m just hiding… it doesn’t seem like a pleasant place….”
image

I don’t blame you, sister. I don’t blame you at all.

Which reminds me, have you guys heard what Chuck Dixon said about Steph appearing in the New 52?

"I’d keep Steph out of the New 52. It’s like letting your kid play in traffic! Then, when it’s all over, bring her back."

I know Dixon gets a lot of flack, but I’ve got to say… spot on there, sir. The part about ‘letting your kids play in traffic’ kind of makes my heart hurt. Say what you like about Dixon… he created the character of Stephanie Brown. And he fought to bring her back after DC fridged her. Not to mention the work he did developing Oracle as a character in Birds of Prey.

I mean, when you think about it… so much of the Batfamily that Dixon created in the 90’s is almost totally gone. He established Tim’s Everyboy relatability in his Robin solo series, and (to a large degree) his sibling relationships with Dick and Babs. He also helped find Cass’s distinctive voice when he wrote her as Batgirl. He established the Babs/Dinah friendship. He did a lot to develop these characters and the relationships between them, and now so much of what he created is just… completely gone.

I can only imagine how it must feel for him to look at the world of the New 52 now.

Letting your kids play in traffic’, indeed.

I don’t blame Dixon for wanting to keep his ‘kid’ far, far away from the New 52. I didn’t create Cass or Steph, obviously, but I feel exactly the same way. Keep my babies away from this ugliness. They’re better off, for now.

Nov 4 '12

iamjasonssmirkingrevenge:

Tim looks like he’s considering biting Jason’s finger off. 

^ LOL that comment just made this picture 50% more awesome. He totally does!

Do it, Timmy! Doooooo itttttttttttttt. XD

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Nov 4 '12

Hey, look everybody! I made a photoset of Bruce’s children!

Good-looking bunch, aren’t they? Seriously, just take a moment to admire the prettiness. It’s okay. I’ll wait here.

Done? Okay, here’s something else I’d like you to notice:

They are not a bunch of identical-looking white boys.

No. Really. Let me repeat that for you:

Bruce’s children

are not

identical-looking

white

boys.

Artists? Please take note.

Oct 26 '12
fyeahdickandbabs:

“Me saving the one person who’s ever given a real crap about me.” 
Reading through Steph’s run as Batgirl so there might be some more of these adorable Batfamily moments to come.

I always feel so conflicted when characters make extreme statements like this.
Because on the one hand, this scene is great, and it gives me all the Steph/Babs feels, and Steph&#8217;s never had very many people in her corner so I totally get why the fact that Babs believes in her is special.
But on the other hand&#8230; the one person who&#8217;s ever really cared about her? Really, Steph? Cass never cared about you? Tim never cared about you? Heck, her mother hasn&#8217;t always been an amazing support, but can you really say she never cared about Steph?
I mean, it&#8217;s still incredibly sweet, but yeah. Calling shenanigans on this whole &#8220;one person&#8221; thing just a bit.

fyeahdickandbabs:

“Me saving the one person who’s ever given a real crap about me.” 

Reading through Steph’s run as Batgirl so there might be some more of these adorable Batfamily moments to come.

I always feel so conflicted when characters make extreme statements like this.

Because on the one hand, this scene is great, and it gives me all the Steph/Babs feels, and Steph’s never had very many people in her corner so I totally get why the fact that Babs believes in her is special.

But on the other hand… the one person who’s ever really cared about her? Really, Steph? Cass never cared about you? Tim never cared about you? Heck, her mother hasn’t always been an amazing support, but can you really say she never cared about Steph?

I mean, it’s still incredibly sweet, but yeah. Calling shenanigans on this whole “one person” thing just a bit.