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It's Only the End if You Want it to Be

Posts tagged bruce wayne

Sep 1 '14

tristanarkham:

NIGHTWING : THE SERIES

OMG OMG OMG

Aug 28 '14
Aug 28 '14

Dick Grayson + Tropes

Aug 24 '14

tinyredbird:

discowing:

teland:

luanna255:

theandysar:

fantastic-nonsense:

why-i-love-comics:

Detective Comics Annual #3 - “Chaos Theory”

written by Brian Buccallato
art by Werther Dell’Edera, Jorge Fornes, & Scott Hepburn

Because he is not being well-written? This is the Bruce I consider canon.

^THIS. My personal headcanon of Bruce will always be someone who struggles with fatherhood and has made mistakes, but is overall a good father. I hate when writers cross the line into making him abusive.

Bolded, because — fuck, yes.

There’s a bit in Darwyn Cooke’s New Frontier that always stays with me — a moment when Bruce is first starting out where he goes to help a small child, and can’t, because he accidentally frightens the boy too badly.

It nearly breaks him.

And another bit in, IIRC, Robin Annual #4, written by Chuck Dixon and penciled, I believe, by Jason Armstrong, where a freshly be-Robined Dick asks Alfred haltingly *why* Bruce wants to have him around, and Alfred lays it out — “Master Bruce has very few real friends. And while he most certainly became a man… I don’t think he ever became an adult.”

And then there’s Gotham Knights #32, a Devin Grayson/Robinson joint — their last I believe — where Bruce just goes to everyone he loves — *everyone* — and silently, lurkingly, subtly loves them. As best as he can. From the people he’s helped to his family — to Harvey.

And then there are those DCAU eps where he bends over backwards to build new lives for people like Harley and Arnold Wesker.

And all that time and effort he spent making sure Tim could be with Ariana, and then Steph, and then the Titans — because he *recognized* all the ways he’d fucked up in the past.

And then there’s the time when he tried to give Cass a birthday, even though he had no idea when it could be, and then sharing *Jay* with her, his dearest, closest-held *memories* of Jay, when he couldn’t with anyone else. (That second one was DetC, Gabrych run.)

And pouring his heart out to Steph on that rooftop, way back when, while Steph was in a state of 0.0.

And EVERY time Dick — fuck. Well, the entire DCU knows how he feels about DICK. INCLUDING DICK HIMSELF, WHEN DICK IS NOT DEPRESSED.

And Clark, at least, considers his love for Lois precisely the same as Bruce’s love for Jay.

Clark, who Bruce holds in his soul, trusting him above all others. His brother — in some ways.

And Barbara — the woman he respects more than anyone else. The woman he trusts behind the scenes for the motherfucking *JLA* systems. The woman who calls him ‘boss’ and means anything but. And he loves it that way. Look at the way Devin writes them together. The way Beatty writes them together. The way Simone writes them together. Fucking *A*.

And Damian! GOD! The son who was *denied* to him for *years*. The son who was *tortured* and *wronged* and led astray for so many years — and who is yet so beautiful inside, and so devoted to so much *right*. How can he not do his best by him? Even if he doesn’t know what that is, he has to *try*.

And so on. And so on.

Just — all of these moments.

Because Bruce is a good man, and a loving man, and a *kind* man, and he wants to make it better for *everyone* — even the people who fuck up and make things worse for everyone else. Because he recognizes his own capacities for failure, his own *fuck-ups*.

And he loves his family, his friends, Gotham, the *world*. He *loves* them. And he does not place himself above… anyone.

Not when he’s written anything like correct..

How do I discard all that other canon? Well, how do you discard the canon that doesn’t make any goddamned sense about *your* faves? The fact that I have to put up with *more* bullshit doesn’t make the bullshit less bullshitty.

It just means I need a bigger shovel.

*points to the one in the corner*

On Tumblr, every character gets the excuse of bad writing except Bruce. He’s always fully blamed for anything any hack decides to write. And I get it! Tumblr users, at least the ones I’m in contact with, consist greatly of people whose lives are made worse by rich, white, powerful men, and it’s understandable that the first knee-jerk reaction to a character who’s the ultimate macho fantasy is dislike, especially when text makes him precisely that kind of asshole.

When I first started reading DC, most of the things I read featured Bruce only in passing, and in a pretty bad light, so I didn’t like him *at all* before I read all those comics Te mentioned, and a ton of other stuff where he’s actually a complex, compelling, fallible, *human* character. And the more I read, the more firmly he’s established himself as my absolute fave.

Thing is, Bruce has (at least) two very different fandoms: one that likes Batman, the loner who punches people, and one that likes Batman, the family man who helps people. DC (or whoever owns the franchise) prefers to cater to Batman fans that are into the grimdark power fantasy, because that one sells better. It sells the big moneymakers, like movies and video games. For us who love a different Bruce, they don’t really give a fuck.

But you know what? I won’t acknowledge, say, Beechen’s Cass or Willingham’s Tim as my canon, and I sure as hell won’t acknowledge the Bruce written by any bad writer with a hard-on for the kind of stories that makes no sense to the character as I understand him.

But to return to the original “why can’t you talk to your kids like this”: he can. He does. When written well. It’s not like his kids love him as much as they do for no reason, and no, it’s not caused by emotional manipulation or some shit.

It’s also interesting that *Alfred* is never questioned for what kind of a father figure he was, and how many hugs *he* didn’t give Bruce growing up. He could have easily resigned from his position and left the lonely orphan to his own devices, but chose not to. You know who else did the same thing? Bruce. He watched a boy’s parents die, his heart went to him and he couldn’t leave him. So he gave him a purpose, a home and the best childhood he could imagine.

I firmly believe that he tried hard and did his best in his role as a parent, they both did. It wasn’t always good, but it was what he knew, and what he learned along the way. (Which is *another reason* on top of all others that makes me mad they murdered Damian: here you had a chance to tell a whole new kind of story about Bruce, a Bruce who was finally somewhat mature and have him raise a young kid with all the experience he had, but you go with the tried and true death of a child to give him angst and erase any history of him ever having a true family.)

tl;dr, Bruce is my favourite and I you should give him a chance, he’s really great.

these are the good people
HOLD THEM TIGHT

Aug 18 '14

discowing:

charactermodel:

Robin: art by Tom Lyle with designs by Neal Adams, Norm Breyfogle, Stephen De Stefano, George Perez and Jim Amparo [ Batman: Knight Gallery ] 

The 1995 DC Comics Elseworlds special “Batman: Knight Gallery” featured the Robin concept designs from artists Neal Adams & Norm Breyfogle, as well as a selection of others from Stephen De Stefano, George Perez, & Jim Aparo– with Tom Lyle stepping in to deliver them in finished form for the book:-

My favourite thing about this is that the subtitle of this book is something like “Bruce Wayne’s Design Sketchbook”. Meaning, these are all his designs, which gives it a whole new level of hilarity.

(Source: 1989batman.com)

Aug 16 '14

Anonymous asked:

Do you like the idea of Bruce being Jewish?

Mmmm… I guess? Maybe?

See, here’s the thing: Bruce will never, ever be written as culturally Jewish in any way. Even small ways. Even like that one issue where Kate lit a Chanukah menorah or whatever. It’s not gonna happen. I don’t even mean any kind of religious observance, I’m talking any kind of observable Jewish identity. Bruce might be Jewish ethnically, but culturally he comes across as the WASP-iest of WASPs. And frankly, after 75 years of history, it’s too late to write him any other way. If Bruce started talking about what his Jewish identity meant to him at this point in the game, it would come across as tacked-on and fake to me. 

Maybe I’m wrong there. Maybe there’s actually a writer out there who could write a story exploring Bruce being Jewish in a way that would feel organic and natural to the character. And maybe it would be fantastic. But even if there was, I don’t think DC would let them tell that story. 

I think it’s quite likely, especially in light of the New 52 canon that Bruce and Kate are cousins, that Martha Kane was Jewish, and therefore Bruce is too. But I don’t think DC would ever let him be visibly Jewish, so as far as representation goes he’s kind of meaningless.

That’s just how I feel about it, though. I’m sure there are a lot of Jews out there who would be delighted for Bruce to be canonically Jewish, even if nothing was ever really done with it.

Aug 13 '14

marcusto:

marcusto:

So many hugs.

The fantastic top image is done by Colours07 on Deviantart thanks Hanza for showing this to me.

I really liked the emotion in the image Colours07 did and wanted to share it with you all.

-To

EDIT credit to Colours 07 on DA and Ladymangoberry on Tumblr

Thanks to Discowing for the heads up

Don’t forget this one!

Aug 6 '14

dynamic-duo-deposit:

agentturner:

Bruce Wayne has made a lot of stupid decisions in his life, but adopting and training Dick Grayson isn’t one of them

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(Source: agentprince)

Aug 4 '14
Aug 1 '14

theandysar:

fantastic-nonsense:

why-i-love-comics:

Detective Comics Annual #3 - “Chaos Theory”

written by Brian Buccallato
art by Werther Dell’Edera, Jorge Fornes, & Scott Hepburn

Because he is not being well-written? This is the Bruce I consider canon.

^THIS. My personal headcanon of Bruce will always be someone who struggles with fatherhood and has made mistakes, but is overall a good father. I hate when writers cross the line into making him abusive.

Jul 31 '14

batsori:

cont.

maybe or maybe not.

Jul 30 '14

tinyredbird:

vickah:

Anon asked for all the flower crowns together. 

:’) Kon

Jul 24 '14

aegontargaryen:

WonderBat

Jul 24 '14

Anonymous asked:

Dick vs. Bruce

Bruce wins, no doubt. I think Dick would give Bruce a closer fight than 99% of humanity would be able to, but Bruce is simply the better fighter. Dick’s fighting skills are consistently described as being almost as good as Bruce’s, rivaling Bruce’s, but there’s always the implication that he’s just a smidge less good. 

Therefore, much as I love him, Dick would lose the fight.

Jul 20 '14

RE: The accustation that Talia raped Batman

onlytalia:

 

This was originally my reply to this analysis, but I feel compelled to make it it’s own post as people were, of course, running for pitchforks thanks to further misconceptions (thanks Grant) about Talia. I’m hoping this way more people will see it. ]

This is why I loathe how Grant Morrison has written Talia, starting all the way back with Batman and Son. His horrible characterization of Talia wasn’t unique to the Batman Inc. Not only does it make no sense for Talia to go through the trouble of getting Bruce’s essence the natural way (ie. having sex) if she always intended to grow Damian in a test tube. There are easier, less messy ways to get the job done; but it instated the notion that Talia was heir-crazy (she’s wasn’t until Batman and Son) and retconned her giving Bruce an antidote for a scorpion sting into a daterape drug.

And Talia would never, ever do that to Bruce. Why?

  • Talia has always shown concern for Bruce’s well-being; physically and emotionally.

We see this in Son of the Demon (where she tends to Bruce’s wounds in Alfred’s stead.

And again in Batman 333, where she tends to his wounds. And her very first appearance, Detective Comics 411, she also helps Bruce recover from injury (a scene also in BTAS, albeit altered in storyline).

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Even as recently as Red Hood Lost Days (2010!) Talia was seen asking after Bruce’s mental and emotional well-being.

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In fact, she’s so distraught over Jason’s death on Bruce’s behalf that we actually see her weeping and mourning in front of a photo of Bruce and Robin on her laptop.

It’s not the picture of a woman who doesn’t give a damn about Bruce’s needs and his agency. Grant Morrison is the only writer to paint that picture of Talia, and it completely contradicts her character.

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  • It’s implied in Bane of the Demon and Legacy that Bane sexually assaulted and/or raped Talia. A victim isn’t going to callously commit the same crime. It’s not, here, a cycle of abuse because she wasn’t raised to think this was normal and okay.

I’ve flipped back and forth between my opinion on this for a long time, but the closer I look at the dialogue and panels, the more certain I am that Bane abused Talia sexually. I find it unlikely that a victim of rape would, in turn, do the same to someone else.

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Here, Bane is essentially threatening to make Talia his sex slave for as long as she lives. It’s make very clear that it’s a lustful sentiment, as Talia apparently awakened that in Bane. He follows up with tying her up and essentially make her wait and dread his return.

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That’s the last of Talia we see until the end of Bane of the Demon, when Ra’s has declared Bane her new betrothed. Throughout Bane of the Demon, Bane manhandles Talia (their first meeting, he holds her and threatens to kill her, he kisses her forcibly (hold her hand behind her back until she reciprocates), but because Talia consented to sex with him once he finds himself entitled to her even when her feelings turn. 

She orders him to be killed after a more violent altercation, and when he escapes, the above happens.

In Legacy, which continues this storyline, we see a Talia that has completely given up, which for me gives the strong implication that Bane has sapped her will to live and fight with abuse, likely sexual.

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Her second panel in Legacy is when she’s with her father and in front of Batman. She looks absolutely ashamed - hiding her face and turning away from Bruce, as if hoping he won’t see her.

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When Bane touches her by surprise, Talia looks absolutely terrified.

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He continues to grab and manhandle her and remind her that there’s no escape for her. She’s trapped, and he’s going to do what he wants to her.

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And this is a woman who, in the past, asserted herself very well in her desires and went after them. But Legacy, especially in this issue (Detective Comics 700) we see Talia completely broken down. She argues with her father about Bane, but dully accepts her father’s wishes - likely feeling to much shame to bring up his treatment of her (whereas she wouldn’t stand for it otherwise.)

Given that evidence and 40-something years of Talia’s character history, Grant Morrison wrote an abhorrent Talia who did awful, awful things. He truncated and perverted Talia’s romance with Bruce. This is a character who gave up her home, her life, her father’s trust (and eventually, her family) for Bruce. She was prepared to do anything for him just to be by his side.

That’s the Talia I love.

What Morrison had her do to Bruce is absolutely disgusting and I hate his writing in her raping Bruce more than anything else he’s done to her character in recent years.

In addition, 

For a long time, [DC] said [Son of the Demon] was out of continuity. Now it’s just kind of out of continuity. I didn’t actually read it before I started writing this. I messed up a lot of details, like Batman wasn’t drugged when he was having sex with Talia and it didn’t take place in the desert. I was relying on shaky memories. But now we have this new “Superboy punch” continuity [after Superboy Prime attacked the fabric of the universe during Infinite Crisis]. People still don’t realize how important that single punch was to cover everyone’s ass.” - Grant Morrison

Of course, then he brought drugged sex back in Batman Inc Vol 2 #2. 

SIGH. It was completely unnecessary and a butchering of a great antiheroine.