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Posts tagged dick grayson

Apr 7 '14
renaroo:


Nightwing: Old Friends, New EnemiesAction Comics (1938-2011) #614

"Gas pumped in… God! Sometimes I can’t believe what people will do." 
I… this was the best post I’ve made today. I’ll admit it fully.
Dick’s just so disgusted at that showerhead, too. Like tone it down, bro! Chill!

I have to admit, I can’t find this remotely funny because the first thing the gas shower made me think of was the Holocaust. Because that’s exactly what the Nazis did - when the “undesirables” (Jews, Roma, etc.) first arrived at the death camps, they were told to undress so that they could “shower”, but were actually locked into gas chambers to be killed. (You can read more about Nazi use of gas chambers here.)
If Romani!Dick had already been canon by this point, actually, I’d say the expression on his face is because he’s thinking about how many of his people died exactly that way. That’s obviously not what the writers were thinking when they wrote this scene. But it does bring up an interesting point - people often say that Dick’s ethnicity doesn’t add anything to the story besides cliched stereotypes about the Romani people. But I think this is an example of how Dick’s ethnicity could be used to add so much nuance to the story - if you read his character as Romani, the way you understand this scene changes completely.

renaroo:

Nightwing: Old Friends, New Enemies
Action Comics
(1938-2011) #614

"Gas pumped in… God! Sometimes I can’t believe what people will do."

I… this was the best post I’ve made today. I’ll admit it fully.

Dick’s just so disgusted at that showerhead, too. Like tone it down, bro! Chill!

I have to admit, I can’t find this remotely funny because the first thing the gas shower made me think of was the Holocaust. Because that’s exactly what the Nazis did - when the “undesirables” (Jews, Roma, etc.) first arrived at the death camps, they were told to undress so that they could “shower”, but were actually locked into gas chambers to be killed. (You can read more about Nazi use of gas chambers here.)

If Romani!Dick had already been canon by this point, actually, I’d say the expression on his face is because he’s thinking about how many of his people died exactly that way. That’s obviously not what the writers were thinking when they wrote this scene. But it does bring up an interesting point - people often say that Dick’s ethnicity doesn’t add anything to the story besides cliched stereotypes about the Romani people. But I think this is an example of how Dick’s ethnicity could be used to add so much nuance to the story - if you read his character as Romani, the way you understand this scene changes completely.

Mar 27 '14

dickie-grayson:

—nightwing #80

#how are you surprised when people figure out your identity?

To be fair, what people tend to overlook with scenes like this is that the fact that Dick used to be a circus acrobat isn’t part of his secret identity, it’s part of his regular identity as Dick Grayson. So it’s not like he’s actually giving away some huge secret by demonstrating that he can do some impressive flips.

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Mar 25 '14

These are the basic emotions according to Artistotle. Reblog and show your best icon for each!

  • Anger
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  • Calmness

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  • Friendship/Love

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  • Hate
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  • Fear
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  • Confidence
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  • Shame
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  • Shamelessness

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  • Kindness
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  • Unkindness
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  • Pity 
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  • Indignation
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  • Envy

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  • Anger

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  • Calmness

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  • Friendship/Love

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  • Hate

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  • Fear

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  • Confidence

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  • Shame

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  • Shamelessness

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  • Kindness

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  • Unkindness

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  • Pity 

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  • Indignation

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  • Envy

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Mar 20 '14
adventuresofcomicbookgirl:

t-campbell:

daily-superheroes:

The perfect alibihttp://daily-superheroes.tumblr.com/

Frederic Wertham, 60 years later: ALMOST right about something! But not really.

i’m telling you that person was right “BRUCE WAYNE AND BATMAN: SECRETLY LOVERS???” is the only way anyone could realistically buy the whole “oh i just happen to fund Batman” thing.

adventuresofcomicbookgirl:

t-campbell:

daily-superheroes:

The perfect alibi

http://daily-superheroes.tumblr.com/

Frederic Wertham, 60 years later: ALMOST right about something! But not really.

i’m telling you that person was right “BRUCE WAYNE AND BATMAN: SECRETLY LOVERS???” is the only way anyone could realistically buy the whole “oh i just happen to fund Batman” thing.

Mar 17 '14

monkeyscandance:

It’s been nearly a year since I last added something to this meme and I felt like drawing bby!Damian again!

I am really happy with the progress, but I don’t know what happened in August 2012 there…

Mar 13 '14

cradlerobin:

#dick just flipping flips EVERYWHERE LIKE???? flipping squirrel

!!!!!!!!! This scene is one of my absolute favorites from the comics (it’s from Darwyn Cooke’s DC: The New Frontier - one of the few Elseworld stories, if you can call it that, that I really love), but I’d never seen the animated version!

For reference, here’s the original comic scene:

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For some reason, it’s really hard to find the full thing online, so I thought some of you might not have seen it. As you can see, Dick’s quite the acrobatic little monkey in the original, too! (He’s showing off for Superman. xD)

Overall, I think it looks like they adapted it really well, although I hope they kept in the “We’re just two lost souls who found each other” line. And the sweet goodbye between Bruce and Clark.

I really want to watch the movie now!

(Source: cornflakepizza)

Mar 13 '14

I don’t necessarily love everything about the issue of The Brave and the Bold that the first scene here comes from, but I couldn’t help but notice this parallel and thought it was kind of interesting.

A lot of people seem to interpret Dick as having been really hung up on Barbara’s past, but personally that’s not my take on it. I think that when they’re being written well, what Dick does for Babs is he reminds her that that part of her life isn’t over - she can still dance, and she can still fly, and she can still have fun and do the things that make her feel free and happy and alive. She’s changed and grown up a lot, it’s true, but that doesn’t mean she needs to let that side of herself go.

So the people who interpret Dick as being hung up with the past (including writers like Devin Grayson) are getting it wrong, IMO. Dick isn’t hung up on the fun they used to have, he’s focused on reminding Babs that having that kind of fun doesn’t need to be in the past.

Mar 11 '14

Some Dick&Babs Li’l Gotham icons.

Way back when Li’l Gotham was first announced, I remember saying one of the things I most hoped for was that Babs would be Oracle and that there would be Dick/Babs interaction which would be more like their pre-reboot dynamic.

Now that the series is (sadly) over, one thing I can be happy about is that they definitely did not disappoint! Babs was Oracle, she was awesome, and there were tons of adorable Dick/Babs moments which felt more like my Dick and Babs than anything we’d gotten in a long time.

And yes, I do consider this more canon than anything currently happening to them in the Nu52 continuity.

Hope you enjoy these, guys - feel free to use! :-)

Mar 6 '14

One of Bruce’s least attractive qualities to me, as a parent/mentor, is the way he’s constantly comparing the kids to each other. It’s like he’s constantly ranking them in order somehow, deciding who’s better than whom, or has the potential to be better than whom, etc., etc. Which would be fine, except that he doesn’t just think this to himself, he says it right to their freaking faces. What kind of effect is that gonna have?

I know a lot of people find these kind of scenes heartwarming, but to me, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Sure, Bruce is complimenting one kid, but he’s insulting another one in the same breath. And more to the point, he’s creating (IMO) a very unhealthy attitude of competition, where each kid is measured up not just by their own standards, but against all of the others’.

I can’t help but feel it creates a situation where, at the end of the day, no one really wins.

Feb 19 '14

jncera:

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Amadeus Lundberg, though - he’s part Rom, and he’s got great hair, and he’s a dancer

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wow what a little dorky dork he is perf as a bb dick grayson methinks

He can do the more sexy intense aspect, too:

http://files.kotisivukone.com/amadeus.ehdolla.fi/amadeus_ss.jpg

My only issue with him is that I have no idea if he can act (he was apparently in a musical play, but he’s never done any movies/TV so I have no way of finding out if he has the necessary acting skills). Looks-wise, though, I think he definitely fits the part (his smile is just a great Dick smile to me), and as a dancer he would move with the natural grace that Dick should have.

I don’t think I’ve found my perfect Dick Grayson fancast yet, but if Amadeus Lundberg could act I’d definitely consider him a strong contender. I definitely think Dick should be played by a Romani actor.

Jan 30 '14

There are two kinds of people in the world.

People who think that Jim Gordon totally knows all of the Batfam’s secret identities (but just can’t openly admit that he does).

And people who are wrong.

Jan 26 '14

Anonymous asked:

Dick and Babs :)

redlacedbird:

No ship bashing is going on here (obviously), it’s just that I got carried away and wrote too much. Brace yourselves :| 

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This is all good but I do want to step in and say that in the original canon, Babs was 7 years older than Dick. This was made pretty darn explicit:

From Batman Family #7 (September/October 1976) "I’ve got the what for her? Listen, she’s got to be seven years older -“ "Older women looked pretty good when I was your age, kid…” Perfection! We get a pretty solid hint at the age difference between Dick and Barbara and we get Dick-Bruce hilarity. I really couldn’t ask for more.

(Batman Family #7)

Barbara: I was getting used to having Dick around on these jaunts—I sorta miss him! He’s really kind of cute with his crush on me and I… What am I thinking? I’m 25 years old, and he’s still a teenager!  Batman Family 10

(Batman Family #10. Dick was in Hudson University at this time, so he was around 18 to Barbara’s 25 - which fits perfectly with the 7-year age difference mentioned in the last scene.)

Fans (and early shippers!) even commented on this at the time:

From the letter column of Batman Family #5 (May-June 1976) People shipped Dick and Babs even in the 1970s. Of course, it took DC over twenty years to step into the 20th century and realize that older woman-younger man relationships are okay.

(For the record, while I agree with Mr. (or Ms.?) Rivera in sentiment, I would point out that while 18 may technically be of legal age, a relationship between a teenager and someone significantly older is often problematic, regardless of gender.)

So you can accept whatever canon you like about their age difference (DC’s certainly changed their story plenty over the years), but you can’t really come along and say “Babs was 17 when she became Batgirl and anyone who doesn’t think so is wrong”, because that wasn’t the original canon and it wouldn’t become the canon until decades later. Per the original canon, Babs was old enough to already have a PhD when she became Batgirl:

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That’s from Detective Comics #359, the issue that introduced Babs to the world. In fact, those are the very first panels she appears in in her civilian identity. And one of the very first facts that the story goes out of its way to establish about her is that she has a PhD and graduated summa cum laude (with the highest honors).

Bear in mind that this was the sixties. The women’s lib movement was in full swing. Women around the world were fighting to break glass ceilings in education and careers. Barbara was officially conceived of and promoted as the new, feminist Batgirl (as opposed to Betty and Kathy Kane). If you don’t think her degree of education was part of that, I think you’re missing a big part of the picture here. Barbara’s PhD was a symbol of her power and intelligence, just like the fact that she later became a Congresswoman.

And the fact that DC felt the need to de-age her over the years, until in later versions of her backstory she’s too young to have had a PhD when she became Batgirl (although I’d point out that even in Batgirl: Year One, she’s already graduated from college early, not high school. That’s why she’s thinking of applying to police academy. Read the book’s Wikipedia entry, for example), too young to have been a Congresswoman in her Batgirl years, and so DC just retconned these elements right out of her backstory… well, that says something pretty un-empowering, IMO. Especially when you consider that Barbara’s romantic relationship with Dick, and the idea that people would be put off by having her be too much older than him, may well have played a role in the change. I’ll give DC the benefit of the doubt and say maybe they were just trying to appeal to a younger audience, and thought books like Batgirl: Year One would sell better with a teenage protagonist. But the implications there aren’t so great, either.

But back to the original canon. Regardless of which origin story you’re going by, you’re definitely right that Dick was a teenager and not a child when Babs became Batgirl. How old exactly? Unclear. Old enough to have already founded the Teen Titans a while back (the Titans were officially formed in 1965, Babs debuted in ‘67). Also old enough that it wouldn’t be too long before he headed off to college (which happened in Batman #217, published in 1969). But still young enough that he was drawn as significantly shorter than Babs:

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(Detective Comics #359)

So… my best guess would be that Dick’s around sixteen here, and that him heading off to college was around a year later in comic-time. According to the seven-year age difference established in the Batman Family era, that makes Babs around 23. Which is a bit young to already have a PhD, but we can just accept that maybe she skipped some grades in this version of canon as well. ;-)

Sorry to be going on and on about this, but the thing is, I’m one of those people who actually likes Dick and Barbara’s original age difference. I like Babs having been a bit older and more mature (and do bear in mind, 23 is still not old) as Batgirl. I like her already having been highly educated. I like the element it brings to Dick’s unrequited crush on her back in his Robin days - it makes sense to me that as someone who was dealing with some very adult issues at a young age and had to grow up fast, Dick would have felt drawn towards someone older. It also makes sense that Babs, although thinking he was cute, wouldn’t have been interested in a teenager. (The fact that my own first crush was on someone older probably also factors into why I like this version of canon so much, I admit!) And I also like the element it bring to their adult relationship - even today, it’s still common to see younger women paired up with older men but pretty rare to see the reverse (especially without obnoxious “cougar” comments). And it’s not like seven years would have been a problematic age difference once they were in their twenties-thirties (which is when they actually became a couple, as you rightly point out).

So, IDK, I actually really like the original canon here, and I don’t think there was any good reason for DC to change it. And you can absolutely think differently, but the point is that people who canon Babs as being significantly older than Dick aren’t actually wrong.

Jan 12 '14
oxers:

Lu has the weirdest suggestions

Excuse you, you mean the greatest suggestions. :-P
*laughs* But seriously, thanks for always humoring my wacky requests! This is super cute! :-)

oxers:

Lu has the weirdest suggestions

Excuse you, you mean the greatest suggestions. :-P

*laughs* But seriously, thanks for always humoring my wacky requests! This is super cute! :-)

Jan 7 '14
yellowcape:

The flying Graysons.

yellowcape:

The flying Graysons.

(Source: midnighthaunt)

Dec 10 '13

cleromancy:

You’re my brother, Dick. You’ll always be there for me.

oh my gOd

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