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I feel like my warrior princesses should look like they are both warriors and princesses and in Starfire’s case; are from space.
Maybe I’m just trying to fill the Barda shaped hole in my continuity.
This a more detailed and slightly updated version of the Starfire redesign I did recently that was featured over on Project Rooftop.
Kind of a weird thing but the first thing that caught my eye and that I LOVE is her stomach: it folds and ripples like a real woman’s, instead of bending smoothly like paper like I see too often.
I love the heft and feel of her body in this picture: She feels substantial and like she can move planets and wreck stuff.
I actually thought this was Maxima. Take note Lobdell and Rocafort oh and while I’m at it (Lobdell you’re a douche for what you’ve done to her)
I love that the light in her eyes is actually bouncing off the bridge of her nose and cheekbones - which is what would really happen if her eyes actually glowed and I’ve never seen an artist depict that.
Kory is a *strong* individual. She has muscles and weight. She is tall. Drawing her as a sprite when she’s an adult doesn’t make any sense.
I always thought it would make more sense if she was built more like Barda or Knockout.
This is awesome
I really like this. :)
… Wow, this is an absolutely stunning take on Kory. And I completely agree, I love the body type she’s given here. Kory’s supposed to be a tall, strong, powerhouse of a character, so it’s always made sense to me that she’d have a larger body type than the typical superheroine - both curvy, and also muscular. Her anatomy is just really well-drawn here.
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I have a deep gratitude towards artists who draw good Discowing fanart. He hasn’t worn that costume since 1992, and most fans (myself included) seem to prefer the blue stripe look, so it’s understandable that Discowing tends to be more ignored in fanart. But I still have a lot of love for the Dick of that era (disco collar and all), so it pleases me to find good Discowing art.
Besides, making this costume work is harder as an artist, so doesn’t that make it all the more impressive?
Art by: mgnemesi, gargoyleface, kreetchur, Bear-Goggles, and eri04.
See this is why I don’t like Starfire in the comics. She is a freaking whore she has been with Nightwing, Red Hood, and now Speedy! Plus who knows who else she has been with.
Please, please tell me this is a joke?
Okay, first of all, this isn’t the original dialogue from the comic. See how the words are in two different fonts? And it doesn’t really fit the speech bubbles in some places? That’s where you can tell that the dialogue’s been altered. (I would be able to tell anyway because I’ve read the original scene - but even if that weren’t the case, a bad photoshop is easy to spot.)
Secondly, this scene is from Red Hood and the Outlaws, which is hardly the best place to go if you want to get an accurate idea of comic!Kory anyway. The way she’s acting here is not remotely in-character for Kory’s personality, as established in the comics over the last three decades.
Thirdly, Red Hood and the Outlaws in fact later establishes that Kory was never romantically involved Jason Todd, aka the Red Hood. This comic has numerous problems in its portrayal of Kory, but let’s at least get our facts straight here.
But even let’s say she was. Let’s say that Kory had in fact been involved with Dick, Jason, and Roy.
What exactly is the big problem with that?
That’s three guys, there. THREE. You’d be hard-pressed to find a character in the comics who hasn’t been involved with at least that many people, unless they’re either a very new character or still quite young. Are they all “whores”?
But, you know what? Let’s say she was involved with more than three guys. Let’s say she was involved with tons of people.
So what? It’s all between single, consenting adults. She’s not cheating on anyone or using them or manipulating them into anything they don’t want to do. So why would it make her a lesser person?
(Source: icannotbelieve)
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I don’t know why everyone makes such a big deal about Kory and Babs both being redheads who dated Dick Grayson, when clearly what they should be bonding over is having two of the most dysfunctional sibling relationships in the DCU.
Here are some convincing counter-arguments.
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/23644372482/firefly20ffm-shobogan-graphic-an-image-of
http://lusilly.tumblr.com/post/29806122912/i-will-never-fully-understand-why-things-happen
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/37093882174/the-natbat-starfire-in-all-her-feminist
http://sentinelalanscott.tumblr.com/post/45158845173/marzx292-sentinelalanscott-read-52-it-has
Ooh, looky, I found more! Luanna, you are a verbose and passionate lady.
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/44078832834/idliketosurvivetheadventure-the-new-teen
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/44073960476/part-2-for-toalwaysbemes-birthday-here-we-have
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/43656013727/batgirlrising-luanna255-ha-ha-ha
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/28600979264/i-decided-since-i-spent-so-much-time-on-this
Haha, I suppose I am both of those things! (Or, “talkative” and “obsessive”, to put it more plainly. xD)
However, some of these posts aren’t really about my complaints with New 52 Kori, and don’t actually touch on how she’s being written in the reboot at all. They’re simply posts about Kory in general.
I’m flattered you’re promoting my posts in general, of course, but I’m kind of wondering why you included those? They might help someone appreciate preboot Kory as a character, but I can’t really see how they’d explain the problem with DCnU Kori to someone who doesn’t see what’s wrong.
^///^ Well, gosh, I didn’t think you’d actually see this, let alone respond.
I guess I just wanted to include as much about preboot Kory as I could, and you’ve practically written dissertations on several aspects of her character, so if someone who doesn’t ‘get’ preboot Kory clicked and read, they’d notice “Hey, the Starfire I’ve been reading about doesn’t have any of these awesome traits.”
Also, I just really like the way you describe everyone’s character. I go to your tags when I want to get a good feel for what a character’s about.
Awww, you sweetheart! *hugs* Thank you so much.
And that makes sense, although I think maybe that should be clarified, since otherwise someone might click one of those links and just think “Hey, wait, what does this have to do with reboot Kori?”
Anyway, here’s some more (relevant) commentary on the issues with reboot!Kori that might help this discussion:
http://the42towels.tumblr.com/post/15385408697/peppers-pray-powergirl-miss-mgann
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/09/22/starfire-catwoman-sex-superheroine/
http://aeedee.tumblr.com/post/43657183373/i-dont-really-want-to-comment-on-rhatos-recent
http://nerdfighter13812.tumblr.com/post/38609016042/toalwaysbeme-maid-of-management-can-someone
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/38673066676/do-you-think-red-hood-and-the-outlaws-is-a-male-fantasy
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l ol I love it how Dick Grayson’s own series repeatedly craps on his significant relationship with Kory, which happens to be one of my favorite relationships for him.
spoiler alert, ‘he didn’t love her all that much,’ says every recent writer ever.
It amazes me how many people seem to be so terribly confused about this, given that Dick himself seemed pretty definite on the issue:

Even when he was having doubts about their relationship, their love was always the one thing he was certain of.
It was always “I love you, but I’m not sure if I can handle that you’re in a political marriage”,
or “I love you, but I’m not sure I’m ready to move in together”,
or “I love her, but I feel strange about living with someone I’m not married to”
You know which part of this was NEVER in doubt?
THAT HE REALLY FREAKING LOVED THIS GIRL.

LIKE REALLY

TRULY AND DEEPLY

HEAD-OVER-HEELS IN LOVE WITH HER.
But, y’know, why take Dick’s word about that, amirite? It’s not like she was the only woman he had eyes for for years, or like he planned to make a life with her and kept trying to make that happen no matter how many obstacles kept being thrown their way, or like he consistently talked about how amazing she was or how much he learned from her as a person. Nope, purely a case of physical infatuation, clearly. Nothing deep or important there.
/rolls eyes forever
That’s… this answer pleases me a lot, actually? Because it definitely sounds like James Tynion IV actually knows Starfire?
Kind of really excited about this book now that Lobdell’s left.
Holy cow. That’s actually… a totally on-target description of Kory? And he’s been a fan of hers going back to the days of NTT?
Does this mean we could actually have Kory written as herself in the New 52?! I don’t even dare hope, someone hold me please.
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When I started reading Red Hood and the Outlaws, I didn’t know any characters aside from Jason Todd, so I wasn’t that bothered with Starfire’s clothing or lack of it. Not even that panel of her in a bikini made me upset and cry out loud against demeaning women.
I’m a girl, I read manga (plenty of…
It’s actually not Starfire’s clothing (or lack of such) that is the problem. It’s the way she’s presented and the fact that (in the abysmal first issue of the book at least) Starfire’s personality was neutered. Her passion and love and emotional openness were cut out of her, leaving an apathetic shell. Her relationships with the Titans, which was a major defining aspect of her character pre-reboot, were apparently unimportant and/or non-existant. The character had been so very full of life and joy and, well… the new version seemed utterly robotic and joyless. This, combined with the blatantly fanservice-y artwork for her (complete with spine-bending physically impossible poses), left quite a bad taste in many fans’ mouths. It made her feel like she was less of a character in her own right and just something pretty for the straight male readers to look at.
The book does get better about its portrayal of Starfire later on (though I still have quibbles with how her short-term memory is supposed to work and the erasure of Kory’s friendships with the Titans and various egregious plots holes like that), but the initial first impression has pretty much stained a lot of readers’ opinions beyond repair.
There are other issues with the book besides Starfire’s portrayal, but that’s the most obvious one since it coincided with normally heavy-set Amanda Waller being made skinny and conventionally attractive and Catwoman spending a good chunk of the first issue of her book in a state of partial undress and Harley getting this for a new outfit. It seemed like part of a bigger, massively unfortunate trend at DC, and the readership was greatly questioning the company’s editorial decisions in this regard.
…Admittedly there were and are people complaining about Starfire’s lack of clothing for slut-shamey reasons but I don’t care about those people because they are terrible and their anger is misdirected at the wrong thing.
This is an excellent post.
It’s not about how much skin Kory’s showing, to me. Frankly, my only issue with her costume is that I wish I didn’t have to wonder how it stays on when she moves around. “Practical” does NOT need to mean “covered-up”, and in Kory’s case, I don’t see why it should.
The people who say the issue with reboot!Starfire is that now she’s a “slut” are just crucially missing the point, IMO. That’s not the issue. The issue is not how much skin Kory shows or who she chooses to get involved with. The issue is that reboot!Kori seems like a completely different person than the Kory so many of us knew and loved. The issue is that she used to have a rich history and an entire circle of friends and now apparently Jason Todd is the only friend she’s ever had. THAT’S the issue.
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Here are some convincing counter-arguments.
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/23644372482/firefly20ffm-shobogan-graphic-an-image-of
http://lusilly.tumblr.com/post/29806122912/i-will-never-fully-understand-why-things-happen
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/37093882174/the-natbat-starfire-in-all-her-feminist
http://sentinelalanscott.tumblr.com/post/45158845173/marzx292-sentinelalanscott-read-52-it-has
Ooh, looky, I found more! Luanna, you are a verbose and passionate lady.
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/44078832834/idliketosurvivetheadventure-the-new-teen
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/44073960476/part-2-for-toalwaysbemes-birthday-here-we-have
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/43656013727/batgirlrising-luanna255-ha-ha-ha
http://luanna255.tumblr.com/post/28600979264/i-decided-since-i-spent-so-much-time-on-this
Haha, I suppose I am both of those things! (Or, “talkative” and “obsessive”, to put it more plainly. xD)
However, some of these posts aren’t really about my complaints with New 52 Kori, and don’t actually touch on how she’s being written in the reboot at all. They’re simply posts about Kory in general.
I’m flattered you’re promoting my posts in general, of course, but I’m kind of wondering why you included those? They might help someone appreciate preboot Kory as a character, but I can’t really see how they’d explain the problem with DCnU Kori to someone who doesn’t see what’s wrong.
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The NTT Quidditch AU could have some NTT villains as an opposing team.

What could be more natural than a little sibling rivalry, amirite? ;-)
Someone needs to teach Komand’r that the Beater’s club is for hitting Bludgers, not your sister.
New Teen Titans!Quidditch team created on dolldivine.
Yeah. I’m sorry. *coughs* I just couldn’t resist, okay?
L to R: Vic (Keeper), Donna (Chaser), Dick (Seeker/Team Captain), Kory (Beater), and Raven (Chaser).
Gar and Wally aren’t in the picture because there was literally no room for anyone else, and anyway the program doesn’t have an option for creating a green-skinned person, but you can just imagine them somewhere offscreen. (In retrospect, it probably would’ve made more sense to include Wally and have Donna be the one taking the picture, but whatever, I do what I want. xD)
For the record, I wouldn’t necessarily Sort all of these guys as Hufflepuffs, but they’d need to all be in the same House to be on the same team, and I felt Hufflepuff was what made sense for the most of them. (Plus, Hufflepuff appreciation FTW!)
So my friend told me i need to step out of my comfort zone with my art, so i decided to do a coloring experiment and drew Kori
i never want to draw curly hair again
Why does this not have more notes?! It’s absolutely freakin’ beautiful. <3
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do you ever see somebody say something about a character and you just want to stick your upper half through the computer, grab their face and whisper,
“no
you
completely
missed
the point
of that character”
and then slowly slide back into the computer while staring at them
Superman, Lois Lane, Finnick Odair, Cordelia Chase, so yeah basically.
All of those, definitely. (Well, I haven’t watched Buffy enough to be very familiar with Cordelia, but I’ll take your word on that one and the others are spot-on.)
Also KORY. Good lord, Kory. Let’s throw words like “slut” and “superhero stripper” at a character who literally represents sex-positivity, yeah, that’s not missing the point at all. /sarcasm
Also Severus Snape.
(And Dick Grayson, but that goes without saying with me.)
(Source: queenphi)
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You said Starfire first appeared in 1980 but I read somewhere that Starfire was in the original series. Which is correct?
That was a different Starfire!
The original Starfire was actually a Russian dude named Leonid Kovar who first showed up in Teen Titans #18 (1968) - which, if you’ll recall, was the first Titans issue ever written by Marv Wolfman:

As you can see, he and Wally took to each other at once! *blatant lies*

But still, he and the Titans parted as friends in the end.
He later rejoined the Titans under the new name Red Star:

(As mentioned here, the name change was his government’s decision, to sound more patriotic, and had nothing to do with Kory.)
He also had a romance with fellow Titan Rosabelle Mendez, aka Pantha:

But tumblr user redtha could tell you a lot more about that than I could.
His character was still alive and heroing in the preboot universe, too - he even showed up in Tim’s Red Robin series, for example:

I’m not really sure what happened to him now, but I’m pretty sure he wasn’t killed off or anything. He could probably come back at any time. (They should make him Russia’s Batman Inc. representative!)
For the record, the fact that he and Kory had the same name isn’t a coincidence:


Yeah. I personally think it’s kind of weird that they just slapped a completely different hero’s name onto Kory, but okay, sure. Whatever.
But anyway, that’s the “Starfire” who appeared in the original series. Kory, however, didn’t appear until 1980, like I said. Kory, Vic, and Raven were all created specifically for the New Teen Titans series.
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