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It's Only the End if You Want it to Be

Posts tagged new 52

Aug 9 '14
loislaneverse:

thehappysorceress:

My hope for the DC relaunch.
Just a Bad Dream; latest commission from Mike Kevan 
(for those below a certain age, you may need a reference.)

We fervently share this hope for the relaunch!

loislaneverse:

thehappysorceress:

My hope for the DC relaunch.

Just a Bad Dream; latest commission from Mike Kevan

(for those below a certain age, you may need a reference.)

We fervently share this hope for the relaunch!

Jul 20 '14

hauntedlittledoll:

thelittlestbat:

From new Batgirl creative team, Cameron Stewart, Brenden Fletcher and Babs Tarr!

Preface:  I like this design.  I like it a lot.

Core Message:  What the heck is it doing on Barbara Gordon?

No, I’m serious here.  This is a fun outfit that was pieced together by a young woman without access to Bruce Wayne’s pocketbook.  I’ve grasped this, and I applaud that decision.  I’d like to point out that those padded motorcycle jackets do have a certain amount of weight that is not shown by this artist, but I really like the boots and a detachable cape makes a certain amount of sense.

It’s just … well, this looks like an outfit that Stephanie Brown or Carrie Kelley would have put together early in their costumed careers.  Even Harper Rowe is wearing more visibly protective gear than this, and that young lady has even less funding/training than Babs (not to mention the new take on Steph’s Spoiler in Batman Eternal).

No, I’ve got it—this outfit feels like Misfit.  This would be an awesome outfit to introduce Charlie Radcliffe-Gage as the determined mentoree that Barbara never asked for.

*shrugs*

I suppose—in consideration of the five-year timeline of the reboot—Barbara probably started out in her late teens.  If the Batgirl book was going to go back in time to fill in that era, this could very well have been Babs’ first Batgirl costume—the one she made herself before nearly dying.  I’d probably read that.

(Future Oracle Post - My childhood memories of Batgirl!Babs were always coloured by my love of Dick Grayson and deep respect of Batman.  I didn’t warm up to Barbara until long after she became Oracle—a new take on those years would be fantastic.)

But as for who Babs is now?

I just think that this outfit looks young in a way that I don’t feel Barbara Gordon is—no matter how DC deages her (they’ve been inching backwards for decades).  This character survived an adolescence with a brother that she (rightfully) suspected of being a serial killer.  She’s the daughter/stepdaughter of high-profile law-enforcement.  Even if this kind of upbringing did not naturally result in a wise-beyond-her-years maturity, she survived the Joker’s personal attention and recovered from severe injury (honest, my thoughts and clear preference for Oracle will be another post entirely … someday).  She’s lost Dick Grayson and watched children die.

Given the trauma of the last year or so in comic book time, Barbara Gordon’s response could very well be to take a break from vigilante work … (I personally think that it would drive her to the isolation and distance of Oracle—the all-seeing commander of armies, but I’m biased) … however, the bright, fun, flirty, social take that the new creative team is selling?

I’m not buying it.  Figuratively.  Literally.  Both.  Nope.

That’s not Barbara Gordon.

Barbara can be bright.  She can be fun and she can have fun.  I think that she even likes to flirt outrageously although she’s selective on who she makes the effort to charm.  But I don’t see her being a social butterfly, fashion-friendly, or a casual detective or anything but an extremely distracted classmate that everyone respects, most like, but no one really knows … because Babs has a drive and a mission and our girl doesn’t have time for this.

(Source: bleedingcool.com)

Jul 15 '14

I Love Batgirl’s New Concept: But It’s Three Years Too Late

subculturedpage:

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I love Barabara Gordon’s new look and creative team. I also really hate it.

If you’ve followed my writing before you’ve probably become well aware I am very passionate about Batgirls. Why? I don’t even know exactly why, but the mantle of Batgirl and its many wearers strike me a certain way.  They mean something to me. So whenever something comes up regarding them, I tend to pay attention.

The…

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Jul 14 '14

Okay, see now what I don’t get is people who say they love Babs’ redesign because “finally a practical female costume in comics!!”

Because it’s absolutely true that impractical costumes are a problem that plague superheroines, but this is what Babs’ New 52 costume looked like before they redesigned it:

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I’m purposefully using a picture that has her next to Batman - her costume was just as “practical” as his. Full body suit, sturdy-looking flat-heeled boots, no unnecessary details beyond the Bat symbol and cape (both of which Batman has too) - what exactly was so “impractical” about this?

For that matter, this is what Babs’ original Batgirl costume looked like:

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That’s from the 1970’s, and her costume looks as practical as can be. Actually, I’d argue that Dick’s the one with the impractical costume, here.

So why are we acting like this is such a big deal that Babs “finally” has a practical costume?! She’s had one since practically the very beginning (once they stopped drawing her original costume with high heels, anyway).

Superheroine costumes are certainly lacking practicality on the whole, but Babs was never really an issue there. So giving her a practical redesign doesn’t really do anything to change the status quo - it just “fixes” what wasn’t broken to start with. Why not give Starfire a redesign where I don’t have to wonder how her top stays on, instead? 

Oct 1 '13
dynamic-duo-deposit:

Bruce.  Honey.  You are falling to your imminent death.  
Is this really the time to be monologuing about Dick and your love affair with Gotham?
(Batman vol. 2 #11)

In Bruce’s mind, it is always the right time to be monologuing about Gotham. And Dick. In that order.

dynamic-duo-deposit:

Bruce.  Honey.  You are falling to your imminent death.  

Is this really the time to be monologuing about Dick and your love affair with Gotham?

(Batman vol. 2 #11)

In Bruce’s mind, it is always the right time to be monologuing about Gotham. And Dick. In that order.

Sep 17 '13

dickraisin:

Favorite shots of Batman/Bruce Wayne  drawn by Greg Capullo

May 23 '13
addude:

I’m not sure what to think.
Is it wrong that the first thing that came to mind was that I want them back together like they were before the reboot?

 #what. #WHAT. #oh no i don’t know what to think #on one hand #otp interacting #on the other #otp interacting in the dcnu #being written by lobdell i’m guessing? #raven mind controlling gar into fighting the teen titans for trigon #oh no i’m….intrigued…. #in an awful creepy way #this is raven and gar’s first meeting in the dcnu too haha wow 
Yeaaah, I…
… On the one hand, I’m happy for Raven and Gar to be interacting again?
On the other hand, it looks like all their history’s been erased (surprise, surprise!), this is being written by Scott Lobdell who is about the last person I trust to write any of the Titans (past or present), and overall I… really am not sure I like this.

addude:

I’m not sure what to think.

Is it wrong that the first thing that came to mind was that I want them back together like they were before the reboot?

May 12 '13

Unpopular opinion: If DC insists on updating the classic Superman costume, I wish they’d go with the version currently being seen in Smallville: Season 11 (right) as opposed to the current New 52 version (left).

Why? Well, for one, having yellow accents on the belt makes the yellow on his S-symbol chest insignia look less random.

Secondly, it doesn’t have the stupid collar that DC decided to give everybody in the New 52.

And lastly, it’s lighter-looking and less armored than the New 52 look, which makes sense to me considering that Clark doesn’t need armor in the first place.

Now, personally I see no reason to get rid of the old underpants-over-tights look, which did fine for 73 years. But if they’re going to update it, I think the Smallville:S11 look gets it more right.

Regardless of which look you like better, though, there’s one thing about Clark’s costume which should always be canon in my book:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbc71lV1mG1rnw80to6_r3_250.gif

Apr 29 '13
rayceoflor:

See this is why I don’t like Starfire in the comics. She is a freaking whore she has been with Nightwing, Red Hood, and now Speedy! Plus who knows who else she has been with.

Please, please tell me this is a joke?
Okay, first of all, this isn’t the original dialogue from the comic. See how the words are in two different fonts? And it doesn’t really fit the speech bubbles in some places? That’s where you can tell that the dialogue’s been altered. (I would be able to tell anyway because I’ve read the original scene - but even if that weren’t the case, a bad photoshop is easy to spot.)
Secondly, this scene is from Red Hood and the Outlaws, which is hardly the best place to go if you want to get an accurate idea of comic!Kory anyway. The way she’s acting here is not remotely in-character for Kory’s personality, as established in the comics over the last three decades.
Thirdly, Red Hood and the Outlaws in fact later establishes that Kory was never romantically involved Jason Todd, aka the Red Hood. This comic has numerous problems in its portrayal of Kory, but let’s at least get our facts straight here.
But even let’s say she was. Let’s say that Kory had in fact been involved with Dick, Jason, and Roy.
What exactly is the big problem with that?
That’s three guys, there. THREE. You’d be hard-pressed to find a character in the comics who hasn’t been involved with at least that many people, unless they’re either a very new character or still quite young. Are they all “whores”?
But, you know what? Let’s say she was involved with more than three guys. Let’s say she was involved with tons of people.
So what? It’s all between single, consenting adults. She’s not cheating on anyone or using them or manipulating them into anything they don’t want to do. So why would it make her a lesser person?

rayceoflor:

See this is why I don’t like Starfire in the comics. She is a freaking whore she has been with Nightwing, Red Hood, and now Speedy! Plus who knows who else she has been with.

Please, please tell me this is a joke?

Okay, first of all, this isn’t the original dialogue from the comic. See how the words are in two different fonts? And it doesn’t really fit the speech bubbles in some places? That’s where you can tell that the dialogue’s been altered. (I would be able to tell anyway because I’ve read the original scene - but even if that weren’t the case, a bad photoshop is easy to spot.)

Secondly, this scene is from Red Hood and the Outlaws, which is hardly the best place to go if you want to get an accurate idea of comic!Kory anyway. The way she’s acting here is not remotely in-character for Kory’s personality, as established in the comics over the last three decades.

Thirdly, Red Hood and the Outlaws in fact later establishes that Kory was never romantically involved Jason Todd, aka the Red Hood. This comic has numerous problems in its portrayal of Kory, but let’s at least get our facts straight here.

But even let’s say she was. Let’s say that Kory had in fact been involved with Dick, Jason, and Roy.

What exactly is the big problem with that?

That’s three guys, there. THREE. You’d be hard-pressed to find a character in the comics who hasn’t been involved with at least that many people, unless they’re either a very new character or still quite young. Are they all “whores”?

But, you know what? Let’s say she was involved with more than three guys. Let’s say she was involved with tons of people.

So what? It’s all between single, consenting adults. She’s not cheating on anyone or using them or manipulating them into anything they don’t want to do. So why would it make her a lesser person?

(Source: icannotbelieve)

Apr 7 '13
I’m still not over this picture.
So here, have an embiggened, non-tilty version.

I’m still not over this picture.

So here, have an embiggened, non-tilty version.

Mar 20 '13
adioslola:

That’s… this answer pleases me a lot, actually? Because it definitely sounds like James Tynion IV actually knows Starfire?
Kind of really excited about this book now that Lobdell’s left.

Holy cow. That’s actually… a totally on-target description of Kory? And he’s been a fan of hers going back to the days of NTT? 
Does this mean we could actually have Kory written as herself in the New 52?! I don’t even dare hope, someone hold me please.

adioslola:

That’s… this answer pleases me a lot, actually? Because it definitely sounds like James Tynion IV actually knows Starfire?

Kind of really excited about this book now that Lobdell’s left.

Holy cow. That’s actually… a totally on-target description of Kory? And he’s been a fan of hers going back to the days of NTT?

Does this mean we could actually have Kory written as herself in the New 52?! I don’t even dare hope, someone hold me please.

Mar 13 '13
comic-commentary:

is it just me, or has dick been…smiling when he shouldn’t be? i dunno, it’s weird. i don’t get the vibe that he doesn’t care or is happy, at all, but it’s kinda. unnerving. this page isn’t the best example, but i think you see it whenever he shows up. maybe it’s just an artist thing. hmmmm…
from Batman 14

YES, thank you, I’m so glad someone agrees with me on this! I commented on this a while back, actually.
It makes absolutely NO sense for Dick to be smiling in this situation, and as aesthetically pretty as Capullo’s art is, the inexplicable smiling really pulled me out of the story. Not really sure what’s up with that.

comic-commentary:

is it just me, or has dick been…smiling when he shouldn’t be? i dunno, it’s weird. i don’t get the vibe that he doesn’t care or is happy, at all, but it’s kinda. unnerving. this page isn’t the best example, but i think you see it whenever he shows up. maybe it’s just an artist thing. hmmmm…

from Batman 14

YES, thank you, I’m so glad someone agrees with me on this! I commented on this a while back, actually.

It makes absolutely NO sense for Dick to be smiling in this situation, and as aesthetically pretty as Capullo’s art is, the inexplicable smiling really pulled me out of the story. Not really sure what’s up with that.

Mar 12 '13

wafflesforstephanie:

silvanoir:

captainwhizbang:

the new 52 summed up in two pictures

We have entered into a repeat of the dark time of the early 90’s.  Even Krypto must be EXXXTTTREEEME! 

Pfffffft. Superboy was COOL in the 90s, this is the 90’s on steroids after drinking too much caffeine during a sugar rush.

I think this says everything, yeah.

Mar 6 '13
Feb 6 '13
fragileicicle:

I’ve been bugged by this page for a long time but I couldn’t put a finger on it, until it hit me today — the real Tim Drake wouldn’t not know who Caravaggio is.

And while I was flipping through ‘A Lonely Place of Dying’ to screencap that image, I came across this:

Did Tim still meet Dick Grayson at the circus? Is he still a Robin fanboy? Oh I’m getting preboot Batfamily feels ;____;

I’m going to ignore those (now-answered) questions on the bottom there because otherwise I think I might cry.
But about this scene: I actually assumed that Tim was kidding with the “Didn’t he play for the Yankees?” line. It’s been well established that Tim’s brand of humor flies straight over Damian’s head, so I just assumed that Tim was trying to cut the tension with a joke, but Damian took it completely literally. Which would also explain why Tim snaps that Damian is an “arrogant idiot” - i.e., he’s so busy assuming he’s smarter than everyone else that he can’t pick up on when someone’s being tongue-in-cheek.
I don’t know. That reading of the scene certainly makes it more in-character for Tim, but if I’m right that that’s what Tomasi intended, he probably should’ve made it a bit clearer.
Still easily one of the best interactions between the Batboys in the reboot, though.

fragileicicle:

I’ve been bugged by this page for a long time but I couldn’t put a finger on it, until it hit me today — the real Tim Drake wouldn’t not know who Caravaggio is.

image

And while I was flipping through ‘A Lonely Place of Dying’ to screencap that image, I came across this:

image

Did Tim still meet Dick Grayson at the circus? Is he still a Robin fanboy? Oh I’m getting preboot Batfamily feels ;____;

I’m going to ignore those (now-answered) questions on the bottom there because otherwise I think I might cry.

But about this scene: I actually assumed that Tim was kidding with the “Didn’t he play for the Yankees?” line. It’s been well established that Tim’s brand of humor flies straight over Damian’s head, so I just assumed that Tim was trying to cut the tension with a joke, but Damian took it completely literally. Which would also explain why Tim snaps that Damian is an “arrogant idiot” - i.e., he’s so busy assuming he’s smarter than everyone else that he can’t pick up on when someone’s being tongue-in-cheek.

I don’t know. That reading of the scene certainly makes it more in-character for Tim, but if I’m right that that’s what Tomasi intended, he probably should’ve made it a bit clearer.

Still easily one of the best interactions between the Batboys in the reboot, though.