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It's Only the End if You Want it to Be

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Mar 23 '14

luanna255 asked:

Question for you... have Bruce and Selina ever had a canon hug? Like in the mainverse comics, I mean? Because the only ones that really come to mind are from JLA: The Nail (which was an Elseworld) and a few times in Selina's dreams/imagination. It seems kind of ridiculous to me that there WOULDN'T be a canon moment like that - I know Bruce doesn't have a reputation as Mr. Hugs, and he's not, but he HAS been known to hug the people he's closest to now and then, and I'd count Selina in that group.

thebatandthecat:

Happy to report that yes indeed, they have had a few canon hugs (though canon is a loose term these days!); however, none that I know of in the current DCU, or at least none that I would classify as a hug. 

These are a few I’ve got ( I haven’t included kissy clinches, of which there are many!). Sadly, these hugs were mostly from a long time ago, but it’s all we’ve got. :-/

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Pre-Crisis, Batman #355

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Batman: The Long Halloween

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Batman: Hush – Is this a hug or a full body clinch?

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Catwoman v3 #13 (I count this as a semi-hug, because geebus look at the palpable intimacy in those hands)

Just noticed you’d replied to this! Thanks SO much for taking the time to answer. :-)

Mar 13 '14

cradlerobin:

#dick just flipping flips EVERYWHERE LIKE???? flipping squirrel

!!!!!!!!! This scene is one of my absolute favorites from the comics (it’s from Darwyn Cooke’s DC: The New Frontier - one of the few Elseworld stories, if you can call it that, that I really love), but I’d never seen the animated version!

For reference, here’s the original comic scene:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4414/3429/1600/robinfrontier1.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4414/3429/1600/robinfrontier2.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4414/3429/1600/robinfrontier3.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4414/3429/1600/robinfrontier4.0.jpg

For some reason, it’s really hard to find the full thing online, so I thought some of you might not have seen it. As you can see, Dick’s quite the acrobatic little monkey in the original, too! (He’s showing off for Superman. xD)

Overall, I think it looks like they adapted it really well, although I hope they kept in the “We’re just two lost souls who found each other” line. And the sweet goodbye between Bruce and Clark.

I really want to watch the movie now!

(Source: cornflakepizza)

Jan 11 '14
"We have a saying, my people. “Don’t kill if you can wound, don’t wound if you can subdue, don’t subdue if you can pacify and don’t raise your hand at all until you’ve first extended it.”"
Wonder Woman (#25, December ‘08)

(Source: sexplosion)

Oct 1 '13
dynamic-duo-deposit:

Bruce.  Honey.  You are falling to your imminent death.  
Is this really the time to be monologuing about Dick and your love affair with Gotham?
(Batman vol. 2 #11)

In Bruce’s mind, it is always the right time to be monologuing about Gotham. And Dick. In that order.

dynamic-duo-deposit:

Bruce.  Honey.  You are falling to your imminent death.  

Is this really the time to be monologuing about Dick and your love affair with Gotham?

(Batman vol. 2 #11)

In Bruce’s mind, it is always the right time to be monologuing about Gotham. And Dick. In that order.

Sep 16 '13

helenabertinellihuntress:

Hugs all around, everyone.

Aug 27 '13
"…for the contingent out there who sneer at heroes like Superman and Wonder Woman and Captain America, those icons who still, at their core, represent selfless sacrifice for the greater good, and who justify their contempt by saying, oh, it’s so unrealistic, no one would ever be so noble… grow up. Seriously. Cynicism is not maturity, do not mistake the one for the other. If you truly cannot accept a story where someone does the right thing because it’s the right thing to do, that says far more about who you are than these characters."
Aug 26 '13
Am I the only one who, before seeing the full scene, saw this panel posted out of context, saw Barbara’s white long white dress, and thought this was supposed to be Dick and Barbara’s wedding? (On second glance, I did wonder why everyone but Babs would be in costume, but it’s not like there’s no precedent for that. Not that I’m saying anyone should be taking Ollie and Dinah’s wedding as their model.)
… And, while the actual scene is completely lovely on its own merits, part of me is tempted to still pretend it’s Dick and Barbara’s wedding, just ‘cause. Y’know. ;-)

Am I the only one who, before seeing the full scene, saw this panel posted out of context, saw Barbara’s white long white dress, and thought this was supposed to be Dick and Barbara’s wedding? (On second glance, I did wonder why everyone but Babs would be in costume, but it’s not like there’s no precedent for that. Not that I’m saying anyone should be taking Ollie and Dinah’s wedding as their model.)

… And, while the actual scene is completely lovely on its own merits, part of me is tempted to still pretend it’s Dick and Barbara’s wedding, just ‘cause. Y’know. ;-)

(Source: fyeahdickandbabs)

Aug 25 '13

You know the umpteenth reason why I love Li’l Gotham so much? There is just so much Dick/Babs, and it just warms my heart.

But I should clarify, it’s not just there being some kind of romance between Dick and Babs that makes it so special. It’s that it’s Dick/Babs where (a) she’s Oracle, (b) they still have all their pre-reboot friendships and relationships and history intact, and (c) THEY’RE HAPPY. And those are three things I’m starting to believe we might never see again with them in the DCnU.

… In short, I feel like in Li’l Gotham I get to see my Dick and Babs again, and that is just so, so wonderful. <3

(Scenes from Li’l Gotham #1, #7, #10, and #17.)

Aug 25 '13

ruckawriter:

dirtyriver:

terribletriplefeatures:

Snazzy mini-documentary on the Question featuring Dennis O’Neil, Greg Rucka, and Jeffrey Combs!

…and Rick Burchett. I don’t understand why this vid had so few notes. I know there’s more than a handful of Question fans around here. So guys, watch it, reblog, spread the love. How many times have you seen Dennis O’Neil or Greg Rucka speak about a character they’ve written, redefined, and understand inside out?

Had no idea this was already out….

Aug 18 '13
since1938:

This should be every comic book ever.
(Lois and Diana in Smallville Season 11 Ch #58)

since1938:

This should be every comic book ever.

(Lois and Diana in Smallville Season 11 Ch #58)

Aug 11 '13

Appreciation Post for Dick’s ‘Finger’ shirt in Birds of Prey vol. 1 #19.

I’ve seen some people commenting on this shirt and wondering what it means (and yes, I’m aware it’s also the name of a band), so: I’m about 99% sure that it’s a reference to Bill Finger, the man who was instrumental in creating Batman as we know him and receives pretty much no credit. In fact, were it not for Bill Finger, Dick Grayson himself might well not exist:

"Robin was an outgrowth of a conversation I had with Bob. As I said, Batman was a combination of Douglas Fairbanks and Sherlock Holmes. Holmes had his Watson. The thing that bothered me was that Batman didn’t have anyone to talk to, and it got a little tiresome always having him thinking. I found that as I went along Batman needed a Watson to talk to. That’s how Robin came to be"

~ Bill Finger (Source)

So I thought that was a pretty cute shout-out. :-)

Jun 23 '13

yerolpalrob:

ajacquelineofalltrades:

combonight:

ajacquelineofalltrades:

“Superman For All Seasons”

Just one of the many reasons why this book is perfect.

I need to find this book and reread it and give it hugs. 

Happy Mother’s Day!

Two panels that capture many beautiful things about Superman, things I wish we saw more of these days.

May 28 '13
tejassssssssss:

Alfred has always been one of my favorite characters in comics.

tejassssssssss:

Alfred has always been one of my favorite characters in comics.

May 28 '13
dynamic-duo-deposit:

batmansgirl2:









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So Bruce’s reasons for for deciding to reveal his identity to Dick here are—
Dick is going to go out to find his parents’ killers on his own and is going to (and nearly just did) get himself killed in the process unless he gets training/has supervision.
Guilt regarding what happened to Harvey Dent.
I find the modern era relationship between Bruce, Dick and Harvey fascinating, and it’s just very interesting to me that Bruce is comparing them in this moment, and that it’s an influencing factor here, especially with how things play out in Robin: Year One.

(Batman: Dark Victory/Robin: Year One)









Did Jeph take this from BTAS or did the writers see this comic and adapt it into the show?









As far as I’m aware, the “Dick going to find the killer on his own” thing did originate with B:TAS, or at least it’s the earliest example of that I know.  (Someone please correct me if that isn’t true.)  In previous versions, there wasn’t really time for Dick to be going out on his own since Bruce generally took him to the Batcave right away after the death of Dick’s parents, revealing his identity there.  Even Batman: Year Three which was one of the major influences on “Robin’s Reckoning” had Bruce revealing his secret right after he got custody of Dick.  
(Sorry to pimp myself, but that question is a large part of why I put together this chart because the ways that different versions of Dick’s origin influenced each other and how the story and mythos evolves in the retellings fascinates me.)
Essentially though, that whole concept became a fairly accepted idea pretty fast, even outside of B:TAS, and was used in several other things shortly after— it was prominent in the Batman Forever movie from 1995, as well as Robin Annual #4 (Chuck Dixon’s origin for Dick) and also Legends of the Dark Knight #100 (Denny O’ Neil), all of which predate Dark Victory. 
So Leob did draw influence from B:TAS, and that shows, but he also wasn’t the first to use it, and he also drew from the other versions of the story especially LOTDK #100, going as far as to use similar designs and getting the whole heart attack thing from there.  And hey, if it ain’t broke it’s fair game in an adaptation.
Personally, I’m actually a big fan of this idea of Dick being very lost and angry and filled with a desire for revenge shortly after the death of his parents, because I think it does help a little to explain why Bruce took this kid in and trained him and brought him into that world.  (In as much as you can ever justify the child endangerment, at least within the rules of that world.)  Plus, I really do think the fact that Dick is able to move past this initial anger, and not let his parents’ deaths consume him brings out some interesting things regarding his character and as well as his relationship with Bruce.
(Though the prevalence of the ideas regarding Two-Face here is also just Jeph Leob following up on some things from The Long Halloween.)

Agreed. Young Justice is far from my favorite adaptation, or my favorite incarnation of Dick, but one scene I think they got really right is the one where Diana asks Bruce is he took Dick in &#8220;so that he could turn out like you&#8221;, and Bruce just replies &#8220;So he wouldn&#8217;t&#8221;. To me, that&#8217;s it in a nutshell - Bruce took Dick in so that Dick would have the one thing Bruce never had: someone who genuinely understood his loss, and could be there to help him let go of the pain and the anger. Of course, there&#8217;s still room to criticize Bruce&#8217;s decision-making here, but I truly believe that he looked at the situation and made what he thought was the best decision for Dick. And what&#8217;s more, I believe Dick would tell you in an instant that his life is 100 times the better because Bruce made the decision that he did.
One of the things I also like about how Batman: Dark Victory sets up Bruce&#8217;s decision to tell Dick his secret is that it really shows Bruce&#8217;s character growth, and how eventually he rejects the idea that he has to be alone. Earlier in the story, you see Bruce&#8217;s perception of himself as alone emphasized over and over - with regards his relationship with Harvey, with Selina, with the flashback of him after his parents died. But when Dick comes along, Bruce realizes he doesn&#8217;t need to be alone after all, and he takes a chance and lets Dick into his life. And that one choice changes everything.

dynamic-duo-deposit:

batmansgirl2:

dynamic-duo-deposit:

So Bruce’s reasons for for deciding to reveal his identity to Dick here are—

  1. Dick is going to go out to find his parents’ killers on his own and is going to (and nearly just did) get himself killed in the process unless he gets training/has supervision.
  2. Guilt regarding what happened to Harvey Dent.

I find the modern era relationship between Bruce, Dick and Harvey fascinating, and it’s just very interesting to me that Bruce is comparing them in this moment, and that it’s an influencing factor here, especially with how things play out in Robin: Year One.

(Batman: Dark Victory/Robin: Year One)

Did Jeph take this from BTAS or did the writers see this comic and adapt it into the show?

As far as I’m aware, the “Dick going to find the killer on his own” thing did originate with B:TAS, or at least it’s the earliest example of that I know.  (Someone please correct me if that isn’t true.)  In previous versions, there wasn’t really time for Dick to be going out on his own since Bruce generally took him to the Batcave right away after the death of Dick’s parents, revealing his identity there.  Even Batman: Year Three which was one of the major influences on “Robin’s Reckoning” had Bruce revealing his secret right after he got custody of Dick.  

(Sorry to pimp myself, but that question is a large part of why I put together this chart because the ways that different versions of Dick’s origin influenced each other and how the story and mythos evolves in the retellings fascinates me.)

Essentially though, that whole concept became a fairly accepted idea pretty fast, even outside of B:TAS, and was used in several other things shortly after— it was prominent in the Batman Forever movie from 1995, as well as Robin Annual #4 (Chuck Dixon’s origin for Dick) and also Legends of the Dark Knight #100 (Denny O’ Neil), all of which predate Dark Victory. 

So Leob did draw influence from B:TAS, and that shows, but he also wasn’t the first to use it, and he also drew from the other versions of the story especially LOTDK #100, going as far as to use similar designs and getting the whole heart attack thing from there.  And hey, if it ain’t broke it’s fair game in an adaptation.

Personally, I’m actually a big fan of this idea of Dick being very lost and angry and filled with a desire for revenge shortly after the death of his parents, because I think it does help a little to explain why Bruce took this kid in and trained him and brought him into that world.  (In as much as you can ever justify the child endangerment, at least within the rules of that world.)  Plus, I really do think the fact that Dick is able to move past this initial anger, and not let his parents’ deaths consume him brings out some interesting things regarding his character and as well as his relationship with Bruce.

(Though the prevalence of the ideas regarding Two-Face here is also just Jeph Leob following up on some things from The Long Halloween.)

Agreed. Young Justice is far from my favorite adaptation, or my favorite incarnation of Dick, but one scene I think they got really right is the one where Diana asks Bruce is he took Dick in “so that he could turn out like you”, and Bruce just replies “So he wouldn’t”. To me, that’s it in a nutshell - Bruce took Dick in so that Dick would have the one thing Bruce never had: someone who genuinely understood his loss, and could be there to help him let go of the pain and the anger. Of course, there’s still room to criticize Bruce’s decision-making here, but I truly believe that he looked at the situation and made what he thought was the best decision for Dick. And what’s more, I believe Dick would tell you in an instant that his life is 100 times the better because Bruce made the decision that he did.

One of the things I also like about how Batman: Dark Victory sets up Bruce’s decision to tell Dick his secret is that it really shows Bruce’s character growth, and how eventually he rejects the idea that he has to be alone. Earlier in the story, you see Bruce’s perception of himself as alone emphasized over and over - with regards his relationship with Harvey, with Selina, with the flashback of him after his parents died. But when Dick comes along, Bruce realizes he doesn’t need to be alone after all, and he takes a chance and lets Dick into his life. And that one choice changes everything.

May 24 '13
fyeahdickgrayson:

-seethroughmyperspective:

 To friends and to friendship! Long may it last!

it was all so beautiful.
-Tales of the New Teen Titans #4
Why does DC hate beautiful and perfect friendships :(

You know what I love about this?
So often with team books like this, or any situation where the writer wants to create a strong relationship, you see these relationships more or less emerging out of nowhere. They&#8217;ve known each other for two issues, and all of a sudden you&#8217;ll get these really extreme statements, like &#8220;YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON WHO&#8217;S EVER BEEN THERE FOR ME&#8221; or &#8220;THIS TEAM IS THE ONLY FAMILY I&#8217;VE EVER HAD&#8221;, and it always rings pretty false, because we haven&#8217;t seen that relationship develop, and more often than not these extreme statements are just contradicting previous history.
What I love about this team is that it&#8217;s so sweet and touching, but it&#8217;s understated. It makes sense for where the team is at this point. Some of these teammates know each other from before, of course (Dick, Donna, Wally), but as a whole they&#8217;re still getting to know each other, like Dick says here. And there&#8217;s a bond that&#8217;s starting to form, but it&#8217;s not as strong as it&#8217;s going to be someday.
Eventually, you see the Titans get to the point where they refer to the team as their family, and at that point, it has weight - because we&#8217;ve truly seen them loving each other and supporting each other as a family. We&#8217;ve seen those relationships develop.
But here, we&#8217;re not at that point yet. Relationships don&#8217;t start with &#8220;You guys are like family to me&#8221;, out of nowhere. Relationships don&#8217;t start with &#8220;I love you&#8221;.
Relationships start with &#8220;I really like all of you so much. As friends.&#8221;

fyeahdickgrayson:

-seethroughmyperspective:

To friends and to friendship! Long may it last!

it was all so beautiful.

-Tales of the New Teen Titans #4

Why does DC hate beautiful and perfect friendships :(

You know what I love about this?

So often with team books like this, or any situation where the writer wants to create a strong relationship, you see these relationships more or less emerging out of nowhere. They’ve known each other for two issues, and all of a sudden you’ll get these really extreme statements, like “YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON WHO’S EVER BEEN THERE FOR ME” or “THIS TEAM IS THE ONLY FAMILY I’VE EVER HAD”, and it always rings pretty false, because we haven’t seen that relationship develop, and more often than not these extreme statements are just contradicting previous history.

What I love about this team is that it’s so sweet and touching, but it’s understated. It makes sense for where the team is at this point. Some of these teammates know each other from before, of course (Dick, Donna, Wally), but as a whole they’re still getting to know each other, like Dick says here. And there’s a bond that’s starting to form, but it’s not as strong as it’s going to be someday.

Eventually, you see the Titans get to the point where they refer to the team as their family, and at that point, it has weight - because we’ve truly seen them loving each other and supporting each other as a family. We’ve seen those relationships develop.

But here, we’re not at that point yet. Relationships don’t start with “You guys are like family to me”, out of nowhere. Relationships don’t start with “I love you”.

Relationships start with “I really like all of you so much. As friends.”

(Source: reyesrobbies)